Il giorno ven 22 mar 2019 alle ore 12:42 Dan Kenigsberg <dan...@redhat.com>
ha scritto:

>
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> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019, 12:21 Sandro Bonazzola, <sbona...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
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>> Il giorno ven 22 mar 2019 alle ore 11:14 Dan Kenigsberg <
>> dan...@redhat.com> ha scritto:
>>
>>>
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>>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019, 12:00 Sandro Bonazzola, <sbona...@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno ven 22 mar 2019 alle ore 10:52 Dan Kenigsberg <
>>>> dan...@redhat.com> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I'm repeating myself.
>>>>> SKIPPING TESTS IS BAD
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree. And having the suite failing on a broken test skipping all the
>>>> following tests is even worse.
>>>> This is why I would prefer the rest of the product being tested while
>>>> someone take ownership of the broken test and fix it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is a good reason to rewrite OST with pytest, which continues on
>>> failure.
>>>
>>
>> Patches are welcome :-)
>>
>
> This is not an empty gesture. The network suite came into being because of
> this issue (and others)
>
>
>>
>>> And a good reason to ping mperina on IRC to debug this. And a good
>>> reason not to merge new code.
>>>
>>> It doesn't convince me that we should ignore the failure without due
>>> debugging.
>>>
>>
>> Debugging in indeed needed but not on production system blocking the rest
>> of the CI. Maintainer of the test can debug it on own test environment.
>>
>
> The product of this system are bugs. We found one. If you skip it, we all
> risk it being forgotten. Skipping should be rare, and happen only after the
> owner is found and admits that he is too busy/lazy to fix it now, and files
> a bug to fix it later.
>

We didn't found a bug in the product we are testing, we found a bug in the
test that still need to be identified.
According to Dafna: "we are randomly failing on get_host_hooks test for at
least 3 weeks. its not a specific branch or project and there are no
commonalities that I can see,"
If it was a bug in the product I would have totally agreed with you, it
couldn't have been ignored. I'm not saying to ignore this as well.
Being a bug in the test itself I would rather prefer take a non reliable
test off for further investigation on a development environment and ensure
the rest of the tests are being executed in production environment finding
bugs on the product if there are.



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>>>>>
>>>>> We have a test suite in order to fix bugs, not in order to kill itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Host hooks are Infra. Infra is mperina, rnori and msobczik.
>>>>> Please consult with them before you shut our collective eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please point them to a failing job, and record the failing traceback.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019, 11:27 Dafna Ron, <d...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> patch submitted: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/98773/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dafna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:04 AM Sandro Bonazzola <sbona...@redhat.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Il giorno ven 22 mar 2019 alle ore 09:34 Dafna Ron <d...@redhat.com>
>>>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we are randomly failing on get_host_hooks test for at least 3
>>>>>>>> weeks.
>>>>>>>> its not a specific branch or project and there are no commonalities
>>>>>>>> that I can see, aside from not being able to communicate with the host.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this week its started happening at least once a day (this morning,
>>>>>>>> 2 out of 3 failures were due to that test).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This test has been added by Yaniv Kaul over a year ago and he is no
>>>>>>>> longer working on ovirt I think someone else should take ownership of 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> test and fix it.
>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you are intending to investigate and either
>>>>>>>> fix the failure or fix the test if not I will add a skip to the test,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please add a skip to the test and if someone will step in
>>>>>>> maintaining this test it will be re-enabled.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Dafna
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sbona...@redhat.com
>>>>>>> <https://red.ht/sig>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>>
>>>> MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV
>>>>
>>>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>
>>>> sbona...@redhat.com
>>>> <https://red.ht/sig>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>
>> MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV
>>
>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>
>> sbona...@redhat.com
>> <https://red.ht/sig>
>>
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Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>

sbona...@redhat.com
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