El lun, 13 nov 2023 a las 2:48, Demi Marie Obenour (<demioben...@gmail.com>)
escribió:

> On 11/10/23 05:07, Hugo V.C. wrote:
> > "If people want to improve the hardware, focussing on generic mechanisms
> > such as support for partitioning L2-LL caches would be far more
> beneficial
> > than point-solutions that will be defeated by the next class of attacks."
> >
> > The path of partitioning some hardware resourse ends up in full
> > partitioning of the computing platform including power supply. It is
> > simpler (almost zero design effort) and the only "reasonably" secure
> > solution. Whenever you share hardware resources, you open the path to
> side
> > channels.
>
> At this point one just has multiple separate systems.
>

**** Yes, it is wonderful how simple it is... isn't it?


>
> > On the other hand, PLUS full computing platform partitioning time
> > protection is a must on each isolated computing platform. So here we have
> > two problems that need to be addressed by different vendors:
> >
> > 1) Time protection, CPU/SoC vendors
> > 2) Computing platform isolation (laptop/servers vendors).
> >
> > Figure out how wonderful would be to have a laptop with X full
> independent
> > computing platforms inside (fun/work/banking...) and each one based on
> > CPU/SoC solutions with Time Protection.
>
> That works until one needs to use all of the cores on the system for a
> parallel
> VM kernel build or for non-accelerated video encoding.
>
> > On top of each of those platforms some verified hypervisor/kernel
> (seL4?).
> >
> > BTW, the step 2 is straight forward, just make laptops a bit bigger and
> add
> > a screen swich to switch each isolated computing platform.
>
> One might as well just buy multiple laptops and be able to use them at the
> same time.
>

*** You can not easily travel with multiple laptops and it is not a
comfortable solution, nor you can sell this idea to anyone.
Instead you can travel with a single laptop with 3 different computing
platforms inside, basically, the user will never know, it will be
transparent.


> --
> Sincerely,
> Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
>
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