Google suggests that the idea page is an important part of their selection 
criteria for mentoring organizations.  

Quoting from the "Notes on Organizations Selection Criteria"

http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/notes-on-organization-selection-criteria

<quote>
2) Do the projects on your ideas list look feasible for student developers?  
Is your ideas list thorough and well-organized?  Your ideas list is the first 
place that student participants are going to look to get information on 
participating in GSoC, so putting a lot of effort into this list is a good 
thing(tm).  One thing we noticed and really appreciated this year was how 
some organizations classified their ideas by easy, medium and difficult, and 
specifically listed the skills and background required to complete a given 
task.  It might also be cool to expand on each idea with some places to get 
started research-wise (pointers to documentation or specific bugs), as well 
as the impact finishing a given idea will have for the organization. 
</quote>

You may want to look at that entire page.

I think we need to do some dress-up of the idea page and suggest the 
following:

   * If it was your idea, add your name as sort of the owner / primary contact 
on the idea, even if you are not willing to mentor.  I'll post again pointing 
to guidelines and so forth on mentoring--in general, in addition to mentoring 
a student, you will need to provide written evalutation(s?) of his 
performance.  If you are willing to mentor for that idea, say so.  

(I don't think the owner or originator of an idea should be or is necessarily 
the best person to mentor a project.  He (the originator of the idea) may be 
an important person for a student to contact for clarifications related to 
the intent of the idea.)

   * Make the entry on the main wiki page reasonably short (1 to 3 
paragraphs).  Move stuff beyond that either to the talk (discussion) page or 
a completely new wiki page.    We should (imho) work towards organizing the 
talk page so it has the same headings (wording and sequence) as the main wiki 
page, although, of course, additional subheadings can and should be used as 
appropriate to keep it easy-to-read.

   * Try to follow the suggestions in the quote above.

Maybe I should bring this up somewhere else, but I have two concerns about the 
Unicode project:

   * Is that anywhere close to small enough that it can make a reasonable GSoC 
project?  And, you ask, how big can that be?   Good question, I think I saw 
some guidelines somewhere, I'll look for those again.  I guess we could get 
lucky and find a student who is familiar with both Unicode and the NEdit code 
base, and there is nothing wrong with saying we need someone like that for 
this project--but, automatically, I'd then characterize it as a difficult or 
very difficult project (simply on the basis that it will be difficult to find 
a student with that knowledge).  If it is too big for a single GSoC project, 
can you identify smaller sub-projects which might be a reasonable scope of 
work, yet still help us move toward the goal of Unicode?

   * I think I'll save my 2nd concern for another post.

I don't know how familiar everyone is with wikis, and I'm not very familiar 
with the wiki engine used on Niki (it appears to be the same one that 
Wikipedia uses)--does it have a lock mechanism or similar to avoid editing 
conflicts (or is it, for example, one of the "last to save, wins" wikis--I 
guess I'll find out).  

If you find yourself locked out of a wiki page or are concerned that it is a 
last-to-save, wins wiki, maybe you want to copy and paste from the wiki page, 
do your editing, and then, if necessary, we'll coordinate an effort to get 
all the pages back to the wiki page(s).

Finally, I'm sure I keep sounding hesitant, but I get the feeling that other 
organizations started on their preparations for this year's GSoC much earlier 
than we, and we might consider not submitting an application this year, but 
instead prepare better for next year.

Randy Kramer





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