On 23 March 2010 14:33, Russ Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If you just want number of acts, searching by year on
> http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk will tell you how many pieces of
> legislation there were which matched your query (although it will only
> display the first 500).

And alas only those in force when the database was set up - lots of
repealed legislation will not turn up. Although a surprising amount
does remain if only in small part - for example the Copyright Act 1911
still exists in 3 substantive sections (albeit one of them gives its
short title).

You would want to consult a chronological table of statutes to really
check. The only database of statutes- as-passed going back that way is
(a) paid for and (b) the most annoying website I use with any
regularity (Justis) and with the most irritating sales force (I once
explored how much extra I'd have to pay them never to have to speak to
a salesperson again to no useful effect).

Justis is probably painful to scrape and almost certainly contrary to
whatever agreement one has going with it to do so.

On the plus side - its so awful that it won't let you search for an
act. It returns all "parts" of an act that satisfy the search
criteria, including the preamble and a title page, so for any year it
would return: total no of sections+2 * no of acts for that year.

I am *way* too unwell to explore this very far, but to give some
numbers of hits (for specific years):

1911: 780
1921: 948
1931: 635
1941: 639
1951: 978
1961: 1287
1971: 2132
1981: 2183
1991: 2184
2001: 2337

The 20th century (i.e. using Dionysius Exiguus' origin, so 1900-1999): 146,037
2000-2010: 40,222

So about 28% of the total of output of primary legislation in the 20th
century. That's a lot but not nearly as fast a growth as one might
imagine - and after all they did have a few wars and things early on
in C20 that might have distracted a little.

Yes: I'm not counting statutory instruments and rules - I'm not sure
that I can easily do that. But the more recent figures will probably
include Acts of the Scottish Parliament, which may bias things the
other way (easier to produce more legislation when you have more than
one legislature at it).

Also while acts tended to be shorter in the parts, *sections* tended
to be longer to the point of looking like winners of obfuscated C
contests.

Justis has records for 211,318 separate bits of "legislation" in the
20th century, and 65,433 bits in 2000-2010 (where a bit is a section,
preamble, paragraph of schedule, title etc). That will underestimate
the older stuff which was not always passed in a regular way - whereas
*almost* everything now is an SI or SR.

Conclusion: whoever contacted Seb has been sold a line of nonsense.

>
> It would be an interesting site to scrape, although the legislation
> itself is all Crown Copyright.

I did write a scraper (which is somewhere around) for the old opsi
site, that managed a great deal of legislation and tried to parse it
down to the section etc level. It was a ghastly thing because the html
produced was truly dreadful, inconsistent and in some cases not even
vaguely html. I mentioned this to a girl working for opsi last year
and she rolled her eyes at the prospect.

I'd quite like to see something like that done (or do it) for what we
have now but I'm waiting while opsi people do the work they are doing.
An increasing amount of stuff is going to be available in sensible
formats without us having to scrape anything. Seems sensible to see
what it is.

-- 
Francis Davey

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