Hi, On 19 May 2010 15:19, Andrew Regan <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Seb, > > Think of this proposal as a political crowdsourcing *platform*. We know that > the White House and the Conservatives have already used GM to capture ideas, > comments, ratings, etc. and passed on the results to policymakers, giving > both GM and the crowdsourcing idea a lot of publicity. > > Now that GM has its own API, it's going to be a lot easier to integrate. > Therefore by hooking it up to my existing Poblish, which taps into an archive > - or rather a live channel - of political content from bloggers, journalists, > Wiki contributors, etc., and already has an API for political content, > there's the potential for an open crowdsourcing system that is long-lasting, > rather than dedicated to 'What should Obama do now' or 'What should be in our > 2010 Manifesto'. Furthermore, the results will be available for the entire > political data community, rather than just White House or Conservative wonks. > > As for what *kind of thing* would be crowdsourced, well, there's a task for > administrators to frame some discussions, but essentially I think this can be > open. If a particular organisation would like to frame a debate themselves > and be seen to be doing this in full public view, that can happen. It might > also be that a single blog post spawns something: rather than concentrating > that debate in the original blog's own comment-box, hosting on this new > platform would open it up to all, it would allow the debate to be connected > with other debates from different sites, and it would allow any user or > developer to follow it, either in their RSS reader, or via the API. > > I'm happy to get this going single-handedly, but it's much more likely to > succeed if I can get other people to "buy-in" to the vision, offer their > advice and experience, etc.
I still don't understand what you're trying to do, I'm afraid. Are there other sites using GM in this way that you can show? Thanks Seb >> Hi, >> >> Sounds interesting. I don't quite understand exactly what you're >> proposing WRT crowdsourcing + google moderator, though. Could you >> give me a concrete example of the kind of thing you might crowdsource, >> and how? >> >> Re. collaboration with mySociety: I don't work for mySociety so can't >> speak for them, but I do know that mySociety time is at a high premium >> at the moment; if you wanted more formal support / collaboration the >> best thing to do is wait until the next call for proposals. >> >> On the other hand if you went ahead and implemented this and could >> show its use then I am sure various people on this list would support >> it through data linkage and the rest, and possibly more. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Seb >> >> On 18 May 2010 17:48, Andrew Regan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'm proposing a political crowdsourcing system - powered by the new >>> Google Moderator API (http://code.google.com/apis/moderator/) - that >>> has the following (possibly unique) aims and features: >>> >>> * To raise user expectations massively, in comparison to the "speak >>> your mind", "vote in our leadership poll", and blog comment-box >>> interaction models. >>> * Following directly from this: raise policymakers' expectations about >>> the *quality* and *usability* of crowdsourced content. >>> * All discussions can/should be seeded with existing political >>> content, rather than created out of a clear blue sky. >>> * All discussions to be integrated with, and matched against an >>> existing political knowledge base: the content from 2000+ top blogs, >>> feeds, and Wikis, from 2002 to date. >>> * The results of all discussions to feed back into the knowledge base. >>> * To be integrated with an existing, long-lasted, non-partisan system, >>> so users don't feel their contributions may be wasted or abused. >>> * Wherever possible, the results of all discussions should be freely, >>> publicly available, and/or queriable, so they can be used by other >>> tools. >>> >>> In short, the aims are to establish the crowdsourcing model, create a >>> really usable technical solution, feed the results back to the >>> political data/tech community, and improve policymaking: using what we >>> already know to produce fewer bad policies, and to make the process >>> more efficient. >>> >>> Is this something MySociety might like to get involved with? >>> >>> I'm proposing to implement this system as part of my existing Poblish >>> system, as I think we're in a great position to deliver all of the >>> above, and I'm hoping that if some of these goals inspire you guys, >>> you might be interested in suggesting, advising - here or elsewhere - >>> or perhaps even deciding to become more closely involved with the >>> work. >>> >>> I guess the main challenges are: >>> >>> * Usability (for users) and interoperability (for developers). >>> * Promotion and community development. >>> * Newness of the Google Moderator API, and the need for users to have >>> Google accounts. >>> >>> Background reading / what this is all about: >>> >>> * >>> http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2010/01/13/poblish-when-crowdsourcing-new-policies-dont-waste-existing-content/ >>> * >>> http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2010/01/26/poblish-better-blogging-and-better-technology-to-help-crowdsource-new-policies/ >>> * http://theconnectedrepublic.org/posts/467 (and comment) >>> >>> WDYT? >>> >>> >>> Andrew Regan >>> [email protected] / +44 7906 123390 >>> http://www.poblish.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list [email protected] >>> Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: >>> https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> skype: seb.bacon >> mobile: 07790 939224 >> land: 020 8123 9473 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > -- skype: seb.bacon mobile: 07790 939224 land: 020 8123 9473 _______________________________________________ Mailing list [email protected] Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public
