On 14 Jan , at 13:47:13, Mark Goodge wrote:

> On 14/01/2011 11:32, Stefan Magdalinski wrote:
>> 
>> On 14 Jan , at 13:00:33, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>> 
>>> The final possibility, and the one that worries me most, is that
>>> commercial organisations could be invited to sponsor the cost of
>>> releasing new datasets on the understanding that they would have a
>>> monopoly on some or all aspects of its use. That would clearly be
>>> undesirable from an open data perspective.
>> 
>> But would be return to the long term mean. Or at least, the policy of
>> the last Conservative government.
> 
> The last Conservative government was a very long time ago, in both political 
> and technological terms.
> 

Yes, but some of us were campaigning on these issues even then, and still 
remember.

The 'sweating the assets' phrase was first uttered to me by someone in the 
Treasury a year after Labour came to power. To be fair, at the time, Labour 
didn't actually have any kind of policy on these issues at all, so it was 
business as usual.

This was in the first meeting we had to try and normalise the licensing 
arrangements for Upmystreet, which was publishing government data illegally but 
popularly. We suggested that we wouldn't pay for the data, because it belonged 
to the British public anyway. The eventual end result was the Click-use 
License, but the initial response was to laugh us out of Whitehall and kick the 
hippies down the street.

This was also the time when Local Authorities were mandated to sell the 
Electoral Roll to direct-marketing companies ('Cost Recovery'), so your right 
to vote was contingent on being spammed.

I'm not being party political here, just the ranting of an old man, filled with 
regret, waiting to die alone.

Stef

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