Hi,

I'd agree that all judgements should be freely accessible by the
public, otherwise how can justice seen to be done? I did a simple
scraper a while back that shows what's on in court, and it would be
great to be able to cross-reference each case with the subsequent
outcome, but their copyright notices highlight a somewhat possessive
attitude to their data:

http://causelist.org
http://www.bailii.org/bailii/copyright.html

Cheers,
Donny.


On 18 June 2011 16:49, Francis Davey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2011/6/18 Matt Wardman <[email protected]>:
>> For information, if anyone can pass the news on to those who may be 
>> interested.
>>
>> Bailii - the guys who provide the database of Court Judgements among
>> other services, has an appeal for funds on after losing a sponsor.
>>
>> Details here:
>> http://www.bailii.org/bailii/appeal.html
>>
>> Their annual running costs are £160k and they have only a couple of staff.
>>
>> Personally I find that I use them much as MySociety reference sites.
>>
>
> As a practising lawyer I find them extremely useful as a site, but not
> nearly as useful as they might be. Sadly, the existence of bailii
> appears to be used as (one of the many) an excuse by the court service
> not to make their judgment data properly open. A blog in which I
> participate was asked to publicise their quest for funding and we did,
> but with a qualification:
>
> http://nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2011/06/bailii-needs-your-cash-regularly/
>
> The bottom line is, I'd like to think they felt some pressure to be
> less stupidly precious about their data - eg not allowing a full RSS
> feed of judgments - in return for more support and funding. It would
> be a bad thing if they folded, but it would be a much better thing if
> they felt they needed to behave better.
>
> Indirectly I (via several organisations I am a member of) and most
> lawyers contribute to bailii (and therefore, so do you our clients) so
> I think it is reasonable to ask that they give back more in terms of
> opening data up. Not allowing google to spider you is just plain dumb.
>
> --
> Francis Davey
>
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