On 07/09/2011 11:07, Francis Irving wrote:
Back in January the Public Data Corporation was announced.

Mark Goodge and Tom Steinberg gave trenchant analyses on this list:
https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/pipermail/developers-public/2011-January/007119.html
https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/pipermail/developers-public/2011-January/007122.html

Today, Michael Cross writes in the Telegraph, implying that we know a
lot more about the PDC now.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8742476/Public-data-Government-should-get-out-of-the-way-of-innovation.html

What's the list's view now? How did the "finely balanced" fight go?

I think this paragraph is the key one:

"The idea seems to be that the PDC will take over the trading activities of the Land Registry, the Met Office and Ordnance Survey, pumping out two types of product. The first will be “public task” raw data, available free on an open licence. The second will be value-added products, chargeable to users. The consultation seems to lean towards a “freemium” business model, where users get a “lite” version for free, but have to buy a licence when they want more data volume, features, or usage."

From an open data perspective, what matters here is the raw data. "Value added" packages are nice for end users, but the developer community needs raw data, and needs it under a licence that allows them to create their own value added services to meet the needs of those who aren't provided for by the official versions.

That being the case, the real weasel words here are the definition of "public task". Does that mean we'll only get the data which the PDC, in its infinite wisdom, decides is suited to public release, or does it mean that raw data is, by definition, considered "public task"?

If the latter, then that's fine by me, and I really don't have a problem (unlike Michael Cross, it seems) with the PDC also packaging the raw data for sale as a value added product. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that there are still some things for which an "official" premium product is desirable. For things which have legal implications, for example, the needs of non-technical end users (ie, those who cannot process the raw data themselves) are best met by a product of guaranteed reliability from a government source rather than possibly inaccurate independent sources - just because anyone can take the raw data and package it for end-user consumption doesn't mean that they'll all do so equally well! Provided the raw data is freely available, therefore, I'm not concerned with what the PDC's commercial arm does with it.

If, on the other hand, the government is planning to let the PDC itself decide which raw datasets qualify as "public" rather than making them public by default, then there's clearly a conflict of interest here which is very likely to be detrimental to the developer community. That's an issue which needs to be addressed, and I'd really like to know more about what the current thinking is in that respect.

Mark
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