"I don't think anyone can argue that object oriented is also equal to
bloat. I need a user's name, I load a user object from a user ID which
does a million queries or so."
No. That would be poor coding. To avoid it, I generally build a few
static methods into managers for handling simple tasks. Not sure how
Drupal does it currently, but in another fully object oriented framework
I work with it looks like:
UserManager::get_username(uid);
And runs one query. I do not, however, have a static method for
non-commonly used things, such as a user's last login time, or join date.
Object Oriented most certainly does not mean bloat. Bad code and
architecture mean bloat.
Regards,
Sam Tresler
On 02/22/2012 11:46 AM, Ashraf Amayreh wrote:
Hold on your horses. First off, I don't think object oriented is ALL
bad. Some things naturally map to objects like user, node, menu, etc,
what I am talking about is trying to fit everything into objects.
I don't think anyone can argue that object oriented is also equal to
bloat. I need a user's name, I load a user object from a user ID which
does a million queries or so. As Joe Armstrong, the inventor of Erlang
put it:
"The problem with object-oriented languages is they've got all this
implicit environment that they carry around with them. You wanted a
banana but what you got was a gorilla holding the banana and the entire
jungle."
When an addition application turns into two objects from the Integer
class using the + method, and when some wise-ass architect wants you to
objectify everything, it does get quite ridiculous. Of course not to
mention the 10 times CPU and memory resources used to achieve it.
Finally, I don't think many will disagree that when you start thinking
about a problem and its solution, you don't start thinking objects.
Would love to get the opinions, or better yet, the experience of people
who've read others' code written functionally vs OOP. Again, we're not
talking about small systems or lousily written ones, but large
enterprise systems. I for one get driven crazy following classes,
inheritance and finding that each variable is a new class somewhere
that's an aggregate of 10 other classes that I have to understand to
debug a simple problem. It could just be me of course :)
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