Hi Stefan,

On 07/09/2025 14:29, Stefan Schantl wrote:
Hello Adolf,
Hi Michael & all,

On 02/09/2025 16:00, Michael Tremer wrote:
Hello Adolf,

Yes, I would be happy for you to give this a try.

Since Harald Hoyer has left RedHat, it seems that dracut has
effectively been abandoned and dracut-ng is the successor with
pretty much the same people contributing to it.

I did not find any breaking changes in the change log (although it
seems quite extensive), so we might have a very good chance to
indeed ship it as a drop-in.

Let us know what you find out during testing it :)

So I tested dracut-ng using the newest version 108. When I installed
IPFire, it built my raid system, it partitioned the disk, created the
filesystem, mounted them and installed the system.

Then it failed with the message Unable to install the language cache.

So I then built version 100 and it did exactly the same.

Then I thought, maybe I had commented out something in the rootfile
that was needed so I did a build with all the rootfile lines
uncommented.

It still failed exactly the same.

Any help or suggestions on how I can debug this would be gratefully
accepted.

This happens because the setup utils tries to launch the "chroot"
binary and ties to execute the the required command to generate the
update cache within the changed root directory.

https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire-2.x.git;a=blob;f=src/installer/main.c;h=9b9c630c35fa44ecb372f58cccad64806c198af4;hb=HEAD#l763

In our current used version of dracut the "chroot" binary is part of
the base and always is present in a generated initramdisk.

During development of dracut and dracut-ng the developers decided, that
"chroot" does not have to be packed as default into an initramdisk.

https://github.com/dracut-ng/dracut-ng/commit/518133714b769160448a51c512d5e152ea6332da

Yes, so I see it was already in the old dracut version 058. If I had tried 
updating from our current version 054 to 058, I would have had the same problem.


So the chroot binary now manually must be specified to be part of the
initramdisk.

Something like "dracut --install "/usr/sbin/chroot" <xyz> " should to
the trick.

Giving it a try currently in a build.

Thanks very much for your help on this.

Regards,

Adolf.


Best regards,

-Stefan

Regards,

Adolf.


Best,
-Michael

On 2 Sep 2025, at 13:13, Adolf Belka <adolf.be...@ipfire.org>
wrote:

Hi All,

I was looking at packages that needed updating. I noticed that
dracut was at version 056. The source for that had version 059
but that was from Dec 2022 and the last commit in that repo was
Mar 2024.

There is a new repo providing dracut-ng. Their version 100 (Apr
2024) is said to be a drop-in replacement for the original
dracut. They are now at version 108 and it is being actively
maintained.

With it being said to be a drop-in replacement I thought dracut-
ng looked a good candidate to test out but as dracut plays a
critical role in the booting process I thought I would ask if
anyone has any information to indicate that it is not worth
trying it.

Regards,

Adolf.







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