Hi,

Dropping ARMv7 and i386 iOS binaries should help in this.

Yours,

                Tuukka

From: Development <development-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt...@qt-project.org> on 
behalf of Marco Piccolino <marco.a.piccol...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, 8 June 2017 at 8.37
To: "development@qt-project.org" <development@qt-project.org>
Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 pre-built binaries

Hello,
Would you also consider creating a smaller macOS offline installer? Current 
version with Android and iOS is at 3.5 Gb and has been reported to cause 
persistent timeouts when downloaded on CI like Travis.
Is providing android and iOS as add-on installs an option?

Marco Piccolino

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From: Konstantin Tokarev <annu...@yandex.ru<mailto:annu...@yandex.ru>>
To: Jason H <jh...@gmx.com<mailto:jh...@gmx.com>>, Lorn Potter 
<lorn.pot...@gmail.com<mailto:lorn.pot...@gmail.com>>
Cc: "development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>" 
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Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 17:22:26 +0300
Subject: Re: [Development] Future of Qt on Web?


05.06.2017, 17:20, "Jason H" <jh...@gmx.com<mailto:jh...@gmx.com>>:
>>  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 at 12:34 AM
>>  From: "Lorn Potter" <lorn.pot...@gmail.com<mailto:lorn.pot...@gmail.com>>
>>  To: development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>
>>  Subject: Re: [Development] Future of Qt on Web?
>>
>>  On 06/05/2017 07:00 AM, Jason H wrote:
>>  > While Qt is not a web framework, over time there have been efforts to use 
>> it on the web (outlined below).
>>  >
>>  > Given that Chrome is dropping NaCL 
>> (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/chrome-deprecates-pnacl-embraces-webassembly,34583.html)
>>  and the WebGL streaming is also not ideal (but better?), I am wondering 
>> about the future of Qt on Web? Will there be a WebAssembly version of Qt?
>>
>>  We have been working on Qt5 for webassembly.
>>  I was just writing a short blog about this:
>>
>>  http://qtandeverything.blogspot.com.au/2017/06/qt-for-web-assembly.html
>
> That is great news! You mention the wasm is smaller? How much smaller?

This article says it's smaller than asm.js, not NaCl

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From: Lorn Potter <lorn.pot...@gmail.com<mailto:lorn.pot...@gmail.com>>
To: Jason H <jh...@gmx.com<mailto:jh...@gmx.com>>
Cc: development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 05:26:53 +1000
Subject: Re: [Development] Future of Qt on Web?


On 06/06/2017 12:20 AM, Jason H wrote:
>
>
>> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 at 12:34 AM
>> From: "Lorn Potter" <lorn.pot...@gmail.com<mailto:lorn.pot...@gmail.com>>
>> To: development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Development] Future of Qt on Web?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/05/2017 07:00 AM, Jason H wrote:
>>> While Qt is not a web framework, over time there have been efforts to use 
>>> it on the web (outlined below).
>>>
>>> Given that Chrome is dropping NaCL 
>>> (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/chrome-deprecates-pnacl-embraces-webassembly,34583.html)
>>>  and the WebGL streaming is also not ideal (but better?), I am wondering 
>>> about the future of Qt on Web? Will there be a WebAssembly version of Qt?
>>
>> We have been working on Qt5 for webassembly.
>> I was just writing a short blog about this:
>>
>> http://qtandeverything.blogspot.com.au/2017/06/qt-for-web-assembly.html
>
> That is great news! You mention the wasm is smaller? How much smaller?

For one small example app (standarddialog) the difference between asmjs
and wasm is:

wasm: 520 k js file and 14 MB wasm file.
asmjs: 69 MB js file.




---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
From: Jason H <jh...@gmx.com<mailto:jh...@gmx.com>>
To: Lorn Potter <lorn.pot...@gmail.com<mailto:lorn.pot...@gmail.com>>
Cc: development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 21:51:53 +0200
Subject: Re: [Development] Future of Qt on Web?


> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 at 3:26 PM
> From: "Lorn Potter" <lorn.pot...@gmail.com<mailto:lorn.pot...@gmail.com>>
> To: "Jason H" <jh...@gmx.com<mailto:jh...@gmx.com>>
> Cc: development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>
> Subject: Re: [Development] Future of Qt on Web?
>
>
>
> On 06/06/2017 12:20 AM, Jason H wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 at 12:34 AM
> >> From: "Lorn Potter" <lorn.pot...@gmail.com<mailto:lorn.pot...@gmail.com>>
> >> To: development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Development] Future of Qt on Web?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/05/2017 07:00 AM, Jason H wrote:
> >>> While Qt is not a web framework, over time there have been efforts to use 
> >>> it on the web (outlined below).
> >>>
> >>> Given that Chrome is dropping NaCL 
> >>> (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/chrome-deprecates-pnacl-embraces-webassembly,34583.html)
> >>>  and the WebGL streaming is also not ideal (but better?), I am wondering 
> >>> about the future of Qt on Web? Will there be a WebAssembly version of Qt?
> >>
> >> We have been working on Qt5 for webassembly.
> >> I was just writing a short blog about this:
> >>
> >> http://qtandeverything.blogspot.com.au/2017/06/qt-for-web-assembly.html
> >
> > That is great news! You mention the wasm is smaller? How much smaller?
>
> For one small example app (standarddialog) the difference between asmjs
> and wasm is:
>
> wasm: 520 k js file and 14 MB wasm file.
> asmjs: 69 MB js file.

That's encouraging. It's almost reasonable. Maybe a progressive web app would 
be the way to go?
But I don't think that is using the browser in the best way? You're effectively 
telling it how to redraw everything, rather than letting it do what it already 
knows how to do. Is that a fair statement?



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From: Alex Blasche <alexander.blas...@qt.io<mailto:alexander.blas...@qt.io>>
To: "<development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>>" 
<development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>>
Cc: qt-creator <qt-crea...@qt-project.org<mailto:qt-crea...@qt-project.org>>
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 11:58:08 +0000
Subject: Re: [Development] Nominating Vikas Pachdha for Approver status
Congratulations to Vikas. The rights have been adjusted.

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Subject: [Development] Nominating Vikas Pachdha for Approver status

Hereby I nominate Vikas Pachdha for Approver status. He has been defacto 
maintaining iOS support in Qt Creator since a year.

https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/q/owner:%22Vikas+Pachdha%22+status:merged,n,z

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From: Jani Heikkinen <jani.heikki...@qt.io<mailto:jani.heikki...@qt.io>>
To: "development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>" 
<development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 06:57:10 +0000
Subject: [Development] Qt 5.10 pre-built bunaries
Hi all,

There has been discussion ongoing about 5.10 supported platforms and CI 
configurations. What we haven't agreed yet is Qt 5.10 pre-built binaries. I 
don't see big need to change anything from 5.9 but there is still couple of 
things on my mind:

- Should we now switch from MinGW32 bit -> MinGW 64bit ones? With 5.9 this was 
too early but would it be time to do it now? Offering both isn't an option. And 
5,9 is LTS so 5.10 could be good release to change that...

- Can we start using RHEL 7.4 for linux packaging? Tony is planning to add RHEL 
7.4 in CI and so on it would be wise to replace 7.2 with 7.4 in the packaging 
as well

Is there some other change proposals which we should discuss about?

br,
Jani





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From: Lars Knoll <lars.kn...@qt.io<mailto:lars.kn...@qt.io>>
To: Jani Heikkinen <jani.heikki...@qt.io<mailto:jani.heikki...@qt.io>>
Cc: Qt development mailing list 
<development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org>>, 
"releas...@qt-project.org<mailto:releas...@qt-project.org>" 
<releas...@qt-project.org<mailto:releas...@qt-project.org>>
Bcc:
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 07:30:15 +0000
Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 pre-built bunaries
Hi Jani,

> On 7 Jun 2017, at 08:57, Jani Heikkinen 
> <jani.heikki...@qt.io<mailto:jani.heikki...@qt.io>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> There has been discussion ongoing about 5.10 supported platforms and CI 
> configurations. What we haven't agreed yet is Qt 5.10 pre-built binaries. I 
> don't see big need to change anything from 5.9 but there is still couple of 
> things on my mind:
>
> - Should we now switch from MinGW32 bit -> MinGW 64bit ones? With 5.9 this 
> was too early but would it be time to do it now? Offering both isn't an 
> option. And 5,9 is LTS so 5.10 could be good release to change that...

We got a lot of questions about 32bit binaries still in the comments to the 
release blog. But those were pretty much all about VS2017. I'd personally be 
happy to move more towards 64 bit, but we should somehow find out how much 
32bit is still required by our users.
>
> - Can we start using RHEL 7.4 for linux packaging? Tony is planning to add 
> RHEL 7.4 in CI and so on it would be wise to replace 7.2 with 7.4 in the 
> packaging as well

Sounds good to me, unless anybody knows about any reasons why we should stay on 
7.2.
>
> Is there some other change proposals which we should discuss about?

I think we should strongly consider dropping 32bit for iOS.

Cheers,
Lars



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