Hey all,

I'm fairly new to the Neo, let alone the development. I'm no stranger to embedded development, I've done it for years, and not afraid to jump in with code and helping out.

What I'm having a hard time with, and this is my main complaint with wiki's in general, is that documentation seems a little scattered. I started with the MokoMakefile and got the "openmoko-devel-image" built, many hours later, but have no instructions on what to do from there.

I have Gentoo and Ubuntu at my disposal, a USB cable to my Neo which works great via USB, and have yet to see a clear, concise article on the wiki of "now that you have it all compiled, here's how you copy the image/rootfs to the phone and actually install it on the phone" kind of article in a step-by-step format like the initial "this is how you get MokoMakefile working".

I see lots of documentation talking about uboot and nand erase and have no idea whether that's even applicable to my setup (GTA01BV4), or whether I need the debug board or not, or where to go from here.

I've also seen a request by someone else for a step-by-step guide to installing qtopia but never saw anything materialize from that either, though I've seen lots of follow-up from others posting screenshots -- just nobody posting a HOWTO for installation. Even the guys that make qtopia won't post a HOWTO article. I've downloaded the three .tgz files from their web site, but have no idea where to go from there. I've tried unpacking them to a 2GB microSD card and tried the uboot menu option of booting from SD but it didn't work because the .tgz files didn't include a /boot/uImage file or something.

I'd appreciate it if anyone can point me to some sort of step-by-step guide, or break it down into "follow the instructions from this wiki page, then this wiki page, then this wiki page". Sorry if I sound like a newb on this, I'm just getting pretty lost looking through article after article on the the wiki, since some of the instructions assume you have a debug board, which I do not.

I really want to contribute to this project, but I think I messed up my Neo earlier today by trying an "ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade" instruction because of the known gsmd bug that hangs the Neo on startup -- I don't get a user interface any more when I boot. Because of this, I want to take the new image I compiled, or someone else's pre-compiled kernel, find a fresh rootfs, and start over on my Neo 'cause I've obviously broken something and have no idea how to get back to square one.

Thanks,
Ian

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