I totally agree. So I want to summarize some of the points here because I think we hit on some good ones:
-To Eberhard's point, now is the time to discuss the direction of features and this project as a whole. I think moving fast is good, but only if we make the right design decisions. So im in agreement regarding discussing and scrutinizing more. -We can and should detect desktops to greater accuracy than "generic desktop". We can easily do apple, windows, and linux flavors. Basically we can combine device and OS detection for desktops. -We should remove the resolution attribute from desktops since we dont know it and it can lead to confusion. -We can and should add browser detection. -If there is ever a question regarding what is possible for this project, just look at our friends over at wurfl ( http://www.scientiamobile.com/ ). They list out some great use cases and they have a decent client list. dClass also has a decent user base. The main use of dClass is to basically redirect users between mobile and desktop sites, so thats a pretty big use case and a big consumer of DeviceMap data. Any other takeaways I missed??? ________________________________ From: Werner Keil <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:18 PM Subject: Re: OS Detection P.s.: in Nürnberg I believe somebody asked, if "ARM" vs. "Intel" or "AMD´" can be recognized. I told them, technically in theory one could also make that distinction, but see Apple or others even an OS is not always tied to just one processor architecture, so it may not provide real value to an application or its user. The DDR Spec would allow it, but not every property seems equally important. Werner On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote: That's why something like "max_image_size" (which not just WURFL has as comparisons show) could not be bad. >ODDR vocabulary added new properties like "is_tablet", which work on >well-known tablets, I tried that myself on Galaxy or Nexus, but e.g. a brand >new Surface was not found (I don't think there's even a fallback for Surface, >AFAIK some Lumia is recognized as "Windows Phone", but the fallback in that >case is "genericNokia" bringing the device back to Symbian if it's new or >unknown > > > >On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:42 AM, eberhard speer jr. <[email protected]> wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >>Actually, I have more than one monitor and all set to a different >>resolution -- there's a reason for that -- I'd expect any serious site >>to 'know' how to deal with me moving a browser to another screen. >> >> >>On 30/07/2014 04:40, eberhard speer jr. wrote: >>>> Simply assuming every desktopDevice must now have 1600x900 >>>> pixel... >>> >>> I do not think anyone suggested such a thing. There are many ways >>> to either get the correct resolution or, preferable : maximize the >>> use of desktop-real-estate using all the nice stuff HTML5 and CSS >>> has to offer. >>> >>> esjr >>> >> >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) >>Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ >> >>iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT2E2VAAoJEOxywXcFLKYcMQsIAJzDT8CGR2nrzE5IGcf/4Ci+ >>xEfjzIGjFoJNLBuUxkbyXMhLC3zFmi46GehUFs1pGfTl4aZeDB+C+/tj7MLR5qHN >>YhuxkuOg8P8SteN4QUumGpJPAFIoAXeez3Zl6todKQTDovs+wkWNqo2yNiIrcAH4 >>OPmFbHdQRD9yW9sgwTNSdDruQz/ltpymN/BdTMC90jp+m/o7ci0Gukt6jERgUIme >>9LG66CFO/RGFv6xVOKNNh0bh9B72Xll+qKPvYn1zujLAW96+w7XDbKN6IszryQI1 >>2xbquocLcgGhRnYIYXQPK8yYsGmWvmCRxLNrhoEk358vLbyEOVMesUpiDuFYfS4= >>=D/4i >>-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >
