On 17/02/14 20:48, Florian Fainelli wrote:

[snip]

- fixing up some design mistake?
- accounting for a specific board design?


    Kind of both. This was invented to defy the necessity of having platform
fixup in the DT case (where there should be no board file to place it into).
I have already described that platform fixup necessary on the Renesas
Lager/Koelsch boards where the LED0 signat is connected to ETH_LINK signal
on the SoC and the PHY reset sets the LED control bits to default 0 which
means that LED0 will be LINK/ACTIVITY signal and thus blink on activity and
cause ETH_LINK to bounce off/on after each packet.


In any case a PHY fixup would do the job for you.


    Not in any case. In case of DT we have no place for it, so should invent
something involving DT.

How is DT different than any machine probing mechanism here? The way
to involve DT is to do the following:

if (of_machine_is_compatible("renesas,foo-board-with-broken-micrel-phy"))
            phy_register_fixup(&foo_board_with_broken_micrel_phy);

Oh yes, but now I have to do that for Linux, for $BSD, and for
anything else I want to run on the device. I thought dt was meant
to allow us to describe the hardware.

If this is the case, let's just call this linuxtree and let everyone
else get on with their own thing again.

See also comment below.

If your machine compatible string does not allow you to uniquely
identify your machine, this is a DT problem, as this should really be
the case. If you do not want to add this code to wherever this is
relevant in arch/arm/mach-shmobile/board-*.c, neither is
drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c this the place to add it.

So where should it be added? If we keep piling stuff into board files
in arch/arm.... then we're just back to the pre-dt case and going to
keep getting shouted at.

Dealing with quirks applying to industry standard blocks is to update
the relevant driver, based on information provided by the specifically
affected systems. Failure to identify either of those correctly is a
problem that must not lead to a generic "let's override PHY registers
from DT" type of solution.

As usual, mechanism vs policy applies even more when DT is involved.

There's an industry standard for the access method, but every PHY seems
to have different extra setup registers for their own cases.

I will leave this out here in case anyone else finds it useful, there
may be a case where there are PHYs that need an amount of register
initialisation and this code may be smaller than putting a pile of
dt properties in.


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