OK, quick disclaimer (as all contrib modules have): I have tested this & it works for me. I give no guarantees of what it will do for others... ftp://ftp.e-smith.org/pub/e-smith/contrib/FranBoon/RPMS/noarch/e-smith-phpmy admin-0.2-3.noarch.rpm This fixes the main bug with the last release: the commenting out of the Template header & footer. (Not sure how that slipped through the last testing!) It also now makes explicit the requirement for E-Smith-4.1+ It is on the FTP site, although currently still seems to be only 0 Kb (Charlie?) I am still very uncertain about how this RPM can cause problems with the main e-smith manager web interface, unless it corrupts /etc/httpd/admin-conf/httpd.conf If you still have problems, then so a 'pstree' from a console & see if httpd-admin is running.. Have fun! Fran.