Hello All This is an old subject I know.But I have been having a friendly conversation with my ISP about this subject. If you are having problems getting your ISP to assign you the static IP you have arranged with them to provide.. It is not your fault that you keep getting the wrong one You are on very firm ground. This is a <snip> from the last message.from www.onthe.net.au When is the Ip assigned and who has control? "It is actually done after the PAP authnetication as part of establishing the ppp connection. There is a conversation that goes on between the machines, your machine asks to be authenticated, then sets and recieves some paramaters, one of which is the ip address. Your machine can request a specific ip but almost always it will be rejected as it is the server side that is actually in control." Steve Head On The Net runs redhat 6+ has thousands of users and 100s with a static IP. I thought that this was good concise description of the process. robert