On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 11:22:58AM -0500, John Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I 100% agree with Darrell's points on this! Those are 2 critical components
> to have handy, perhaps the 2 things I use the most at the shell level.
With my developer hat on, I agree.
With my deployment hat on, I disagree. slocate, in particular, causes
(seemingly) random major disk activitity, which concerns customers (a lot).
I believe we took the correct approach - don't install them by default,
but place then on the CD for you to install if you wish, and make a Blade
out of them as soon as possible.
> Are there other shell type tools/apps that got dropped (Pine/Pico, vi, etc.).
No.
> I have not loaded up SME5 yet (I am on the road), wondering what other
> surprises are there.
There should be none. The only tools not installed by default are in
this group:
1 ExtrasForDevel {
man
rcs
slocate
strace
}
> I guess this is probably a stupid question, but are the man pages themselves
> not installed, or is it just the man app?
Neither are installed by default. The installer will upgrade existing
versions.
> On a sematics point, the blade should probably be called the "Sysadmin
> Blade" or "Shell Tools Blade", as "Developer Blade" seems to suggest things
> like compilers, make, etc. (which would be another fine blade to have handy,
> though I thoroughly agree that these should not installed by default).
Yep. I'd prefer to see small blades - "Manual pages" (which would include
man and manpages), "Sysadmin" (which would include slocate, ...), etc.
> I know this is not a democracy, but my vote would say leave those in there
> by default. Still love the product, just registering an opinion.
Which we value, but we all need to remember the focus on this list is
development. Developers want/need manpages, slocate, etc.
Thanks,
Gordon
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