On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 05:59:31PM +0200, Some Guy wrote: > Well they sure seem to think Freenet is trash (M?ll). > http://f27.parsimony.net/forum66166/messages/2353.htm > > Thier routing is really simple. It won't scale too > well but they can cross some of those bridges when > they come to them.
The question of how to route requests in a decentralized, robust, and scalable manner is to a P2P network as the question of how to get off the ground is to a flying machine. If they haven't solved that problem then they haven't really done anything interesting yet other than port some of freenet's peripheral concepts to C. They can complain all they want about Freenet's slowness, but it is pretty meaningless when they haven't yet solved any of the hard problems. There seem to be a number of people who read about CHKs and SSKs, and think thats all there is to freenet. I suppose it is somewhat understandable as our routing mechanism can be difficult for people to get their heads around, and NGR doesn't make that any easier. > As far as thier annoymity is concerned: it suffers in > simular ways freenet may suffer. > 1) If a node requests/inserts something "evil" outside > it's specialization (1/16th slot) to a hostile node, > it's incriminated. In freenet you may still be able > to do the same attack, but you'll have to do more > statistics. "More statistics" is quite an understatement, this is a critical difference. > 2) Which nodes have what content seems to be pretty > public too. Isn't that the point of anonymous publishing? > They mention grapevine. > http://www.grapevineproject.org/ > http://grapevine.sourceforge.net/doc/grapevine/grapevine.html > Does anyone know anything about it yet? It has been around for a while - their proposals are ambitious, and much is borrowed from us, but they don't seem any closer to having a working implementation than when I last looked at it a year ago. Incedentally, Stephen Blackheath, one of the people behind the project, did some work on Freenet (early work on FProxy IIRC) several years ago. Ian. -- Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coordinator, The Freenet Project http://freenetproject.org/ Weblog http://slashdot.org/~sanity/journal _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
