Ian,

I have to say I was more than a little shocked by your message. YoYo
is still regularly updated and links to all the freesites that I can
pull out of freenet to review (and, recently, I have had to add some
sites with 'Review Unavailable' as I simply cannot pull anything most
of the time). It is a massive benefit to have YoYo on the gateway, especially
while almost all other indexes are down. If anything, as it at least
works, you should really elevate it up the bookmarks list - so the first
thing people try is something that does actually WORK.

YoYo is an index and links to a wide variety of freesites - why should
it not link to one (or two) that, at the moment in time when you wrote
your message, does not agree with your ideological ideas about the network?
I have even SPOKEN to you about Production Freenet and your reaction
has not been such that I would expect such a response as this. A few
days ago when I made my original post about the status of such a network,
 your initial response seemed positive.

If you believe my wording to be overly "promotional" then we can discuss
it on IRC and maybe rephrase it. I would have spoken to toad and yourself
yesterday before I started inserting but I couldn't get hold of either
of you on IRC all night. If it is any consolation, I still cannot get
the 5mb or so of files required for the Production Freenet site to insert.
It has been going for about 24 hours, retry 12 now. You will need to
contact me ASAP on IRC as I need to start inserting soon if there's any
hope of YoYo being done for midnight GMT. No joke.

I would like you to explain how I have deliberately crippled the index
I maintain by linking to a freesite that offers a temporary solution
to the crippling network problems inflicted by your own neglect. You've
had months to sort the network out, but the only constructive thing you
can do is make freenet even worse by suggesting removal of one of its
indexes from the gateway. Now I know why you favour CofE's flog so much
(why on earth did you ever put THAT on the gateway?? its not exactly
a "page to allow people to find freesites more easily" now is it!) -
he'd bitch about freenet but never do anything about it.

I hope you will have the decency to at least get in touch before you
take any further action. I care a lot about this project and would never
intentionally do anything that I believe would harm it. If what Production
Freenet suggests CAN be proven to be harmful (which will only happen
by letting it run its course) then at least it may have contributed to
stimulating the flurry of debugging activity that seems to be going on
in devl right now.

Regards
Reskill

P.S. Have you (or anyone else) actually tried the final build we're using
now? If anyone has any probs/wants to stimulate debate on Production
Freenet, join #fredisdead on IIP.

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:54:16 -0700 Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
>> Requiem      
>> review: Lists only freesites inserted into the new Production
>Freenet 
>> network - a separate freenet network designed for us publishers
>who just 
>> simply cannot work with the current freenet, now known as Devl
>Freenet. Site 
>> has no ActiveLink but try it anyway, its edition so should work
>always.
>
>Since Freesites are placed on the gateway page to allow people to
>find 
>freesites more easily, we should probably drop YoYo now that he
>has 
>deliberately crippled his site to promote a network split.
>
>Shame.
>
>Ian.
>
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