> We have yet to establish that freenet routing does not work. What is the metric that indicates that it works?
outboundAggregateRequests: 432580/day inboundQueryRejecteds: 255612/day resetRatio: 767 tries, 23 succcess/day For a total of 0.3% chance of a query getting an answer? If only 0.3% of all queries even get a DF, certainly the chance of actually getting all the data is even lower? Lowest global time estimate: 318570ms Highest global time estimate: 459317ms 459s latency, seems kinda high. Do the odds of getting an answer have to drop below 1 in 10,000 before we label it as a doesn't work? Does the latency have to rise about 1 day before we so label it? Further, if I ask fred if it works, he says the most successful node that he talks to has a 1 in 2,792,500 chance of getting the data he wants. Meaning, I have to burn 2.7 million queries before I get a bit of data. How many bytes does 2.7 million queries take? Also, I stream out around 8KB continuous, and I get in around 100 bytes a day on a good day, not that I try too much. It is rather painful, as my browser only does 4 active connections at a time. It `feels' like it doesn't work. When I click on something, I actually would prefer if it came up. Also, when it does work, it works at 1-5 bytes a second transfer rate, that sure feels like it doesn't work. What is the theoretic cost to being anonymous? 1000x inefficient seems slightly high to me. I know, to measure it, we can send out with the load information, how many bytes to the actual user freenet gave them and how much data we pump out the upstream connection on a global basis. We can then have fred display E, as E=userbytes/outbytes. These two can be computed: newglobaluserbytes = myuserbytes *0.01 + globaluserbytes*0.99 newglobalupstreambytes = myupstreambytes * 0.01 + globelupstreambytes*0.99 each hour. Over time, the global would tend to be the average of all nodes near you. On non-anonymous P2P networks, we expect E would be around 0.99. On freenet, we know it will be lower, but with efficient routing, and 5 copies to obscure requester and provider, I was almost hoping for E to be around 0.18. freenet feels like it is at 0.00001 or below. Now, I know efficient routing may not be possible or desirable, but I was hoping that a 10x overhead might be enough, for a total E of around 0.018, this would be vastly better than how freenet feels, if you want to see hard data, put in code to measure it as above, and then we can see just how bad E really is. _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
