On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:59:12AM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Toad wrote:
> >This strongly suggests that routing is not doing terribly great. The
> >suspicion is that there is some form of network fragmentation going
> >on. Ian refuses to admit the possibility of network fragmentation, so I
> >am wondering how to produce extraordinary evidence to support my
> >extraordinary claim :).
> 
> I don't refuse to admit the possibility, I just think that it is 
> unlikely and that there are much more likely explanations (such as 
> routing just not working).  It simply seems statistically very 
> improbable that the network could split into two independent segments 
> with no interconnections.
> 
> I would like to verify the claim that those splitfiles were in-fact 
> inserted recently.  I have noticed very poor splitfile performance, but 
> I have only tried splitfiles that are months old.
> 
> Looking at the Estimators many of them appear quite chaotic, and I am 
> fearful that they simply aren't doing a good job, note that NGR's 
> routing ability is entirely dependant on the effectiveness of the 
> ResponseTimeEstimator implementation.  The statistic I have been 
> suggesting we implement for ages now, the mean difference between 
> estimated and actual response times, would tell us whether these 
> estimators are really doing their jobs.

That stat is absolutely useless and impossible to implement properly. I
explained why on another thread, please reply to it.
> 
> The problem could be that many of them simply aren't receiving enough 
> individual data to generalize effectively.  This could be addressed in 
> at least two ways:
> 
> * Reduce the number of peers from 50 to, say, 15 or even 10

Then we have to be very careful with adding new peers to the RT.

> * Embed Estimators in DataSources and in the seednodes file so
>   nodes share experience of other node's performance
> 
> Of course there is always the chance that there is just a bug somewhere, 
> perhaps even in the splitfile code.
> 
> Ian.

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