On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 08:31:31PM +0000, NextGen$ wrote:
> 
> Both of you are missing the important point : on darknet we don't want to
> reveal the network topology : we can't rely on a third party to do the job.
> As far as I know all the NAT circumventing methods are involving a third
> party.

UP&P doesn't. As long as we are sure we are behind a router, we can be
sure that we are on our own LAN, unless Mallory controls the router.
> 
> Please move the thread to @tech :)

IMHO this is relevant in the relatively near future.
> 
> NextGen$

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