Again, I'm not the right guy to ask, but- The node can't test to see if it's externally accessible, and we can't trust it when it says it can get outside. It's safer to test externally.
Julien Cornuwel wrote: > What about the node doing all the tests to know if it's eligible to be > a seednode and then, if it is, ask the user ? > > > Colin Davis a écrit : >> I admit that I'm woefully ignorant when it comes to proper design, >> and I'm not among the smartest people in the room. >> That said, these don't seem like difficult problems- Certainly it's >> because I'm missing the complexity. >> >> I think it the installer should present the option, because that's >> when users are most likely to hit Yes. >> They don't want to futz with things.. If the question comes up, and >> there is no default answer (As I showed before), They'll think about >> it, then choose. >> >> I'm not entirely convinced that emu having a list of 10-20% of the >> user's IPs is a horrible thing. >> Keep in mind- We do not have to give this entire list out to each >> requester, nor do we have to accept data into the list without >> testing it. >> It's only added to the list if the user explicitly chooses to do so, >> and even then, we're not sharing it. >> >> Imagine if you will that there is a PHP script on >> freenet-project.org.. The script takes in a noderef, and saves it to >> a file on the machine. [1] >> A helper application then attempts to connect to the Noderef.. It >> records if it is successful or failure and the time/date. >> The helper app loops through all the submitted noderefs, and >> continues to store their success/failure and the time/date. >> >> When we find that we've successfully connected to the node over a >> long enough time span, it then gets added to VerifiedNodes.txt >> >> When you start Freenet for the first time, the installer can ask >> "Would you like to download the freshest set of seed nodes? Having >> the freshest set of seed nodes allows freenet to get started much >> faster. Without it, it may take up to a day to become integrated into >> the network" >> >> When they make a request to freenet-project.org/getSeeds.php, we >> return 20 random seeds from the VerifiedNodes file. >> >> The helper app continues to test nodes from the VerifiedNodes.txt.. >> If it hits a certain number of failures to connect, it removes the line. >> >> >> Assuming there were a way to pass Freenet a noderef from the command >> line, and get back a success or failure when trying to connect, this >> is something that I could code up in a bash script in about an hour, >> and I'm not a very good programmer. I'd be happy to help if you'd like. >> >> I'm sure I'm missing the complexity somewhere. >> >> -Colin >> >> >> >> [1] Or SCP's it to another machine to do the processing. That doesn't >> matter for this conversation. >> >> >>> it. We also (for obvious reasons) don't want the seednodes.fref to >>> become something like the yellow pages for opennet (where not everyone >>> but almost everyone has an entry and no checks are being made). >>> The reasons are: >>> - - freenet is anonymity software, we don't want to publish an almost >>> complete list of our users >>> - - if there are many nodes installed and uninstalled, the list becomes >>> crappy, because many entries lead nowhere, it will take even longer for >>> new users to connect >>> - - the seednodes.fref should stay under a few MB >>> - - we don't want it spammed or even worse flooded with entries from >>> attackers >>> >>> regards >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >>> >>> iD8DBQFHl5soPUBAMhFf+J4RAtG7AJ9K2PQeeO9ElBNzHkQ7xzp0oSq2+ACcDKoV >>> sGSo4W0dsGXvzElouY/Nf3k= >>> =X5/K >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Devl mailing list >>> Devl@freenetproject.org >>> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Devl mailing list >> Devl@freenetproject.org >> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
