On Thursday 04 June 2009 14:06:16 Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Nextgens has suggested Google Web Apps more than once. This is a paid service 
> but with a generous free quota. The free quota will become rather less 
> generous on June 22nd. Hopefully we will get the release out before then, but 
> we will definitely have to pay to release 0.8. Details:
> - 10GB/day free transfer each way at the moment, 1GB/day after June 22nd.
> - 46 CPU hours/day free at the moment, 6.5/day after June 22nd.
> 
> The issue with CPU time is SSL: at the moment, https://checksums redirects to 
> an HTTP download, ideally we'd like to serve the installer over SSL, 
> especially since we don't have a code signing cert, but it is not clear how 
> much CPU time this would cost. Anyway, if we do it as now, we would just 
> serve the .sha1's etc directly, and redirect to HTTP for the bulk downloads. 
> In which case we only need to worry about the bandwidth. The cost of 
> bandwidth is reasonable: 12 cents per gig outgoing, 10 cents per gig 
> incoming, so $96 for a respectable slashdotting of 100,000 downloads (8MB 
> each). And in the months when we are not slashdotted, it should cost nothing, 
> even with billing enabled.
> 
> The default quota only allows 56MB/min, which is only 7 downloads, so may not 
> be enough for a slashdot to work well, but if we enable billing it increases 
> to 740MB/min, which is 92 downloads per minute, which is probably sufficient.
> 
> What services could this provide for us? It could certainly provide:
> - Hosting static web content over HTTP.
> - Any dynamic java-based content we want to add in future.
> 
> I am not sure whether it could provide hosting of large files. Servlets are 
> required to return within 30 seconds, presumably the output is buffered, but 
> thousands of 8MB downloads may not be what they intended to buffer. One 
> serious issue is that we cannot run HTTPS on our own domain name:
> 
> "All secure traffic with Google App Engine must be served from your 
> appspot.com domain (https://your-app-id.appspot.com). If you are serving your 
> app off of a Google Apps domain, you must direct all secure traffic through 
> your app's appspot domain."
> 
> Hence we would not be able to keep https://checksums.freenetproject.org/ even 
> as a redirect. That eliminates much of the appeal for me, as it breaks 
> update.cmd / update.sh. Really Google Web Apps is designed for dynamic web 
> applications, which is not what we are building.
> 
> What does it not provide?
> - MANTIS.
> - Mailing lists.
> - A wiki.
> - Probably doesn't provide email redirects.
> 
> Wiki and mailing lists we could probably get from Berlios.
> 
Did somebody register freenet.appspot.com ?? If you did, it'd be great if we 
could have it...

I have registered freenetproject.appspot.com. It is better to have memorable 
names. :|

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