> On Wednesday, August 03, 2016 04:41:52 PM [email protected] wrote: >> Here are my two cents. Some of the tasks in this spreadsheet are >> extremely >> minor and don't deserve their own point, so to speak. For example the >> Chome browser warning and legal FAQ, should belong under a single task >> called Website re-design. > > Just don't vote for them then :)
Its logical to combine minor tasks together so the $ : work hr ratio is roughly equitable. > > We cannot remove things from the poll just because we don't like them, > that > would look like rigging the vote. I considered to at least merge them into > something else which requests the same, but they sounded too distinct. > >> One really important thing I don't even see on there is making Freenet >> apt >> and rpm packages. Packages installable from a project repository. If you >> ever hope to get into Tails one day, you'll have to bite the bullet and >> do >> this. > > Now I don't claim that the task list is complete by any means, but to be > able > to actually reach a decision, there needs to be time limit for changing > things > around. > And there have been over 2 months of time to add tasks to the list. If > people > didn't add the stuff during that time, perhaps just consider this as a > vote > indication of "not important enough". > Remember the bigger picture here: Our donation campaign asked for money to > fund 12 months of programming, and 3 have already passed. So we need to > move > on quickly. Hard to know about voting deadlines when there was literally no public announcements for months :) Don't shut the door in my face just yet. > > (With regards to Tails for example, the problem is they want a Debian > package > - and we cannot get one done right now because the bcprov library Debian > provides is too old. Search the mailing list archives for "Debian", this > has > been discussed here.) Yes I'm familiar with the history. To this I say, don't worry about getting into Debian proper. It won't work out for you since they update stable every blue moon and you often release new versions that have hard incompatibilities with earlier ones. You can independently bake in your own bcprov just like you do right now, except distributions will have the means to grab your software. > >> Another thing. You should make user participation as easy as possible. >> Create a web poll on the tasks or a web form that automatically >> allocates >> points from a total available. Try that in Freenet with WoT if you are >> worried about spam voting. > > It took 3 months of the desired 12 months to get a non-automated poll > finished. Doing an automated one might have taken longer than the time we > wanted money for in the first place :D > > But to be serious: I don't think it makes sense to automate something for > its > first use. The whole algorithm of the poll is new, we don't even yet know > whether it will be useful for our goal. No need to automate it before we > even > know we need it more than once. > >> Also people >> with a conflict of interest shouldn't really vote. xor will be biased, >> understandably because he stands to benefit most. That's an example not >> a >> slur against xor. You should leave voting to users. > > If people vote to exclude me, I will of course accept that :) > > But before you do so, please at least give me a chance to defend my votes > by > reading my explanation of them in the other thread. It shows that I'm just > voting for the stuff which I was advocating already while I still was a > volunteer: > https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/2016-August/039133.html Nothing against you xor. My example applies to everyone, equally. Its a bad example considering the situation between you guys. I wanted more details on the ground rules which now Ian clarified. > > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > [email protected] > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list [email protected] https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
