On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 02:05:29PM -0400, Gianni Johansson wrote:
> On Monday 02 April 2001 12:51, tavinwrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:51:12PM -0400, Gianni Johansson wrote:
> > > On Monday 02 April 2001 09:42, Tavin wrote:
> > > > This has been argued over before.  I don't think it should, the reason
> > > > being that it's not 100% effective, and it will lull people into a
> > > > false sense of security.  Sure it blocks that <img> tag, but I'll bet
> > > > you if I spent a half hour I could figure out something that would slip
> > > > past the filter.  A while ago it was as simple as a meta tag refresh,
> > > > but I think that one got fixed ;')
> > > >
> > > > The only thing that could be 100% effective would be to set your
> > > > browser to use a real proxy for all protocols which would perform
> > > > http->freenet relaying like fproxy but would block any outgoing
> > > > non-freenet traffic.
> > > >
> > > > After I finish some of the stuff I'm working on, if no one else steps
> > > > up, I will write one of these, maybe as a service to be run with the
> > > > node, maybe external..  dunno.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, with FCP in the node now we're in a good position to create
> > > > this beast.
> > >
> > > I disagree.  How are you going to trap all protocols? You will have to
> > > filter the HTML..
> >
> > Um, pretty easy..  set the proxy for all protocols to the freenet proxy
> > program..
> >
> "easy" for who? proxy configuration is not joke for joe clueless Windows 
> user.   Are you really ready to test deploy and support configuration for a 
> variety of browsers and plaforms?  

Well IE and Netscape both support PAC (Proxy Auto-Configuration) scripts..
so we could provide one.  Not that it's all that hard to open up a dialog
box and type in "localhost" and a port number.  I'd say that's probably
easier than getting freenet and fproxy installed and working in the first
place (maybe not, never installed it on windows myself).

> Does this mean that you are going to write pass through proxies for all 
> protocols? 

Well, the idea is to *block* everything but freenet: .. but I guess you
could have it switch modes so it would just pass things through.. that
shouldn't be very hard.

> You can probably make this work for motivated technically astute users.  What 
> about the rest?  
> 
> I'm not saying don't do this.  Hell, I will probably use it if you implement 
> it. I just don't see it a solution for the average end user. Whereas  the 
> existing filter is.

Well, whatever ;-)
I guess I shouldn't care how badly the average end user is compromising their
anonymity.

-- 

# tavin cole
# if code is law, then Freenet is a crowded theater


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