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1. Re: GMP/GCJ update. (Steven Hazel)
2. Re: [Freenet-dev] (sans sujet) (Scott G. Miller)
3. Re: Announcement Protocol (Scott G. Miller)
4. Is it just me, or is Freenet sick at the moment? (Adam Langley)
5. [Freenet-dev] RES: Freenet-dev digest, Vol 1 #976 - 1 msg (Pedro Ferreira)
6. Re: GMP/GCJ update. (Adam Langley)
7. Aardvark (Ian Clarke)
8. Re: Is it just me, or is Freenet sick at the moment? (Ian Clarke)
9. Re: Announcement Protocol (Oskar Sandberg)
10. Re: Cleaning up Freenet/contrib (Oskar Sandberg)
11. Re: Is it just me, or is Freenet sick at the moment? (Oskar Sandberg)
12. Whiterose 0.3 beta 3 (Adam Langley)
13. [Freenet-dev] Problems with the rabbit (Elifarley)
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Message: 1
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] GMP/GCJ update.
From: Steven Hazel <[email protected]>
Date: 30 Jan 2001 12:36:58 -0600
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
"Mark J. Roberts" <mjr at statesmean.com> writes:
> Okay. This seems rather easy, and I could probably do the bulk of
> the work, but I need someone fluent in C to check it
> out. Volunteers?
I can help you with the C.
-S
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:05:08 -0500
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] [Freenet-dev] (sans sujet)
From: "Scott G. Miller" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
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Have you asked on freenet-support?
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:27:44PM -0500, GregoryRbrts at aol.com wrote:
> Sirs:
>=20
> I have been trying unsuccessfully now for three days to run freenet. I=20
> charged and recharged the program three times first installing the jave=
=20
> prerequisite as indicated. I repeadely click ont the rabbit icon with no=
=20
> responce. What am I not doing? Please help.
> Thanks,
>=20
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:06:10 -0500
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Announcement Protocol
From: "Scott G. Miller" <[email protected]>
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 06:23:40PM +0000, Adam Langley wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:55:37AM -0500, Scott G. Miller wrote:
> > > "AnnouncementReply
> > > <common fields - including DataLength>
> > > ReturnValue=3DxN
> > > Data
> > > pkencrypt[Alice pk](r),encrypt[r](xN, sign[BobN](xN), Address[BobN]))
> > > "
> > >=20
> > > Why put the data in a trailing feild? Keep it in the headers and par=
se
> > > it normally.
> > You can't parse it, its encrypted. And its likely to be fairly long. =
xN
> > is going to be at least 160 bits (40 hex characters), signature is
> > up to 2048 bits (512 characters), address contains a lot of information=
as
> > well.
>=20
> Alice does. But I accept the length argument
Yeah, but you can't parse it with the FNP message parser unless you add
public key decryption support to it. You have to decrypt it first and
then parse it.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:26:35 +0000
From: Adam Langley <[email protected]>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: [freenet-devl] Is it just me, or is Freenet sick at the moment?
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When testing Whiterose and pouring over the logs, I guess I get a=20
better look than most at how well Freenet is working. It's not good.
The 24-hr delay should have fixed up inform.php, but I'm still
getting timeout's from most of the nodes either on the crpyto
handshake, or on getting a HandshakeReply. Also fred has a nasty
bug where it seems that data gets buffered, then the connection is
closed and the data is lost (Oskar says he is rewriting that code for
0.4 so it isn't worth a bug hunt). That certainly doesn't help=20
things either.
All in all, Freenet isn't happy. Here's hoping that 0.4 fixes things.
AGL
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Message: 5
From: "Pedro Ferreira" <[email protected]>
To: <freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:14:00 -0200
Subject: [freenet-devl] [Freenet-dev] RES: Freenet-dev digest, Vol 1 #976 - 1
msg
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
i'm trying too, but ican't connect, i need help ?
hey BRaz=3Diliam boys help me in portuguese , ok ?
Valeu galera o Brazil impera !!!!
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Assunto: Freenet-dev digest, Vol 1 #976 - 1 msg
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Message: 1
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:27:44 EST
To: freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Freenet-dev] (sans sujet)
Reply-To: freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net
Sirs:
I have been trying unsuccessfully now for three days to run freenet. I
charged and recharged the program three times first installing the jave
prerequisite as indicated. I repeadely click ont the rabbit icon with no
responce. What am I not doing? Please help.
Thanks,
Gregory Roberts
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:50:25 +0000
From: Adam Langley <[email protected]>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] GMP/GCJ update.
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:36:58PM -0600, Steven Hazel wrote:
> > Okay. This seems rather easy, and I could probably do the bulk of
> > the work, but I need someone fluent in C to check it
> > out. Volunteers?
>=20
> I can help you with the C.
I'll certainly help if I can.
AGL
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:24:44 -0800
From: Ian Clarke <[email protected]>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: [freenet-devl] Aardvark
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I think that given that Aardvark has been down for the last few days, we
should remove it from the FProxy gateway page for 0.3.7.
Any suggestions for an alternative?
Ian.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:06:57 -0800
From: Ian Clarke <[email protected]>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Is it just me, or is Freenet sick at the moment?
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 08:26:35PM +0000, Adam Langley wrote:
> When testing Whiterose and pouring over the logs, I guess I get a=20
> better look than most at how well Freenet is working. It's not good.
It isn't perfect, although I can generally retrieve anything I want from
it in a reasonable amount of time.
> The 24-hr delay should have fixed up inform.php, but I'm still
> getting timeout's from most of the nodes either on the crpyto
> handshake, or on getting a HandshakeReply.
That is very strange, inform.php should be testing nodes, although it
only opens and closes a TCP connection, nothing more sophisticated than
that. Still, that should be a good indication that a node is working.
Ian.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:06:56 +0100
From: Oskar Sandberg <[email protected]>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Announcement Protocol
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 05:46:03AM -0800, Adam Langley wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 03:22:59AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> > This is a proposal for the node announcement protocol to replace
> > "inform.php" in 0.4. It may seem a little overly complicated at first, so
> > read the rational at the bottom before asking about that. Feedback from
> > the wise (Hal...) would be appreciated.
>
> Well, I'm not the wise - but I'd read it anyway
>
> What exactly is a node reference? PublicKey+Addr1+...+AddrN?
Yes.
> "Bob1 first checks that he has no previous references to Alice in his
> store. If he does he sends back:"
>
> What is this check? Just the address? (which is bad because node might
> want to reannounce if the store is lost) or a match of the PK? (which,
> is much better)
Public keys are the identities of nodes. A previous reference to alice
would be any previous reference to her public key.
> "Reason=1"
> What other reasons could there be? And do we really need to give a
> reason if there are other reasons?
The protocol isn't complete as given, but I feel that it would be nice to
be able to use the failed message for a number of things. One could use it
for loops as well for instance (though that behaves differently, so
classically we would use a whole different message). And even for other
terminal conditions, it would certainly be Alice's benefit if she knows
why the announcement failed.
> "randomly picks a reference out of his routing table,
> Bob2, to which he sends the message as follows"
> I assume the message is handled as normal with respect to Timeouts
> and QueryRestarts?
Yes, though we may be somewhat more less strict on the time, both because
we can be, and because it needs to load larger messages (trailing fields
in 3 of them). Specifically, there needs to be a rather strict timeout
when waiting for the AnnouncementExecute, as I waiting on Alice gives her
ample DOS opporunity...
> "AnnouncementReply
> <common fields - including DataLength>
> ReturnValue=xN
> Data
> pkencrypt[Alice pk](r),encrypt[r](xN, sign[BobN](xN), Address[BobN]))
> "
>
> Why put the data in a trailing feild? Keep it in the headers and parse
> it normally.
Too big.
> "ReturnValue=xN"
> hash(xN)?, cos below it's hash (xN-1 + xN)
Maybe, I'll have to check.
> "Address[BobN]"
> NodeReference BobN?
Same thing in this context (I believe it even says as much).
<>
> Again, make feilds
> Nonce.1=x1
> Nonce.2=x2
>
> and keep it out of the trailing feild so that we don't have to write
> new parsers.
My parser can read FNP (and html without modification it turns out) from
any stream, can't yours?
--
'DeCSS would be fine. Where is it?'
'Here,' Montag touched his head.
'Ah,' Granger smiled and nodded.
Oskar Sandberg
md98-osa at nada.kth.se
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:07:44 +0100
From: Oskar Sandberg <[email protected]>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Cleaning up Freenet/contrib
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
Yes (I'm everyone).
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 02:10:02AM -0500, Tavin Cole wrote:
> I think it was the consensus on this list that we move everything out
> of Freenet/contrib except attacks and fproxy. So I am going to delete
> all the extra stuff from the experimental branch. Anything that needs
> to be saved should be placed in the Contrib module before we merge
> experimental back into the trunk.
>
> Does this sound okay to everyone?
>
> --
>
> // Tavin Cole
>
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'Here,' Montag touched his head.
'Ah,' Granger smiled and nodded.
Oskar Sandberg
md98-osa at nada.kth.se
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:11:20 +0100
From: Oskar Sandberg <[email protected]>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Is it just me, or is Freenet sick at the moment?
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 08:26:35PM +0000, Adam Langley wrote:
> When testing Whiterose and pouring over the logs, I guess I get a
> better look than most at how well Freenet is working. It's not good.
>
> The 24-hr delay should have fixed up inform.php, but I'm still
> getting timeout's from most of the nodes either on the crpyto
> handshake, or on getting a HandshakeReply. Also fred has a nasty
> bug where it seems that data gets buffered, then the connection is
> closed and the data is lost (Oskar says he is rewriting that code for
> 0.4 so it isn't worth a bug hunt). That certainly doesn't help
> things either.
More importantly, the fact that you are describing the behavior of other
nodes in ways that none of us has been able to reproduce makes it next to
impossible to understand what it going on.
> All in all, Freenet isn't happy. Here's hoping that 0.4 fixes things.
>
> AGL
>
> --
> Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
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'Here,' Montag touched his head.
'Ah,' Granger smiled and nodded.
Oskar Sandberg
md98-osa at nada.kth.se
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:54:56 +0000
From: Adam Langley <[email protected]>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: [freenet-devl] Whiterose 0.3 beta 3
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
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0.3 beta 3 is out there. This doesn't mean it's stable, just that=20
it's crashing less often now ;)
d7cc3ff129a664887ab523ece01f9ccb wrose-0.3b3.tar.bz2
http://freenetproject.org/wrose-0.3b3.tar.bz2
--INSTALL--
WhiteRose Install:
0.3 beta 3
First, you will need gmp3. Under debian `apt-get install libgmp3-dev` seems
to be ok. Otherwise either install from your package manager or grab the
srcs and build manually.
When installing gmp3 make sure there is a gmp.h file in an include
directory. Also make sure libgmp.[a|so] exists - the GMP configure script
wasn't perfect when I tried it.
If you get the GMP install wrong you will get errors in mpi.hh or at link
time ("cannot find -lgmp" messages). In that case try again.
After that:
python configure.py
python makeconfig.py (just hit enter for all questions and you should be fi=
ne)
make
make refs (when online)
=2E/wr
The port values are put in the rtv directory.
Have fun.
AGL
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Message: 13
From: Elifarley <[email protected]>
To: <freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:49:19 -0200
Subject: [freenet-devl] [Freenet-dev] Problems with the rabbit
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
on 1/30/01 6:05 PM, freenet-dev-request at lists.sourceforge.net at
freenet-dev-request at lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> Message: 1
> From: GregoryRbrts at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:27:44 EST
> To: freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Freenet-dev] (sans sujet)
> Reply-To: freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net
>
> Sirs:
>
> I have been trying unsuccessfully now for three days to run freenet. I
> charged and recharged the program three times first installing the jave
> prerequisite as indicated. I repeadely click ont the rabbit icon with no
> responce. What am I not doing? Please help.
> Thanks,
>
> Gregory Roberts
>
After you double click the rabbit icon, what exactly happens afterwards ?
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