On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 12:17:42AM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> 
> >From their statements on the p2p-hackers list, it is my understanding
> that the Bitzi authors plan to support multiple records for any piece of
> data, so that beyond there own "SHA1 hash" format, they would also be
> able to provide Freenet keys and other forms of UIDs. They seemed
> unconcerned by and understanding of the proliferation of different
> identifiers.
> 
> Because the data is encrypted, the only way to provide lookups of data
> on Freenet using any plaintext hash as the key would be to use the hash
> as a insecure KSK. This would mean that you could not verify the data
> until you had downloaded and decrypted all of it, and that the network
> would not be able react to the bad data.
Why can't you use a CHK? You might need several different CHKs, one for 0.3,
one for 0.4 as a single file, one as a splitfile...?
> 
> On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 02:30:48PM -0700, Patrick Oscar Boykin wrote:
> > This is shame that there can't be some bridging.  See:
> > http://bitzi.com/developer/code
> > 
> > I don't know if this has been discussed before, but bitzi provides
> > metadata lookup on files, including SHA1 hash.
> > 
> > It would be really nice to be able to use bitzi to search for files, and
> > then locate them on freenet.
> > 
> > There are already over 1 million files indexed on bitzi.
> > 
> > From what I have seen here, interoperability in freenet has always been
> > a major concern.  Why not with this issue?
> > 
> > Okay, sorry, that last bit was a joke.  Seriously, I am interested in
> > what people think about this approach for searching.  I know there is
> > freegle, but since that is freenet specific, it seems like something
> > like bitzi (which will be useful also to the gnutella community who are
> > working on support for it) could be great.
> > 
> > Oscar (not Oskar).
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:09:18PM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> > > No, it's not that simple. All SHA1s are not equal. For two identical
> > > pieces of data two end up with the same SHA1 based keys, then the entire
> > > format for the data must be exactly the same - all splitting, padding,
> > > encrypting, formatting, error checking, metadata etc etc must be
> > > strictly defined. Freenet CHKs will not match with SHA1 indentifiers
> > > generated by any other program.
> > 
> > -- 
> > boykin at pobox.com        http://pobox.com/~boykin        ICQ: 5118680
> > Key fingerprint = 159A FA02 DF12 E72F B68F  5B2D C368 3BCA 36D7 CF28
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Oskar Sandberg
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