On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:16:22AM +1100, fish wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Ian Clarke wrote: > > > 1) Streaming (which would support a "live" ogg audio broadcast) > > I've been holding off on rewriting this in java and attempting to add it > to fred for a couple of reasons, but I am going to do it in the near > future. it was only implmented in python because, frankly, that's what > I'm most comfortable in :-p. However, all of the technology *DOES* exist > for me to do this in java (there is even a java implentation of an ogg > encoder!) > > fish's fred streaming blockers: > > (a-1, of course, too, that i had to get an environment that could compile > fred - i went thoguht many, many different combinations of vm+compiler > before i found a set that would run ajd produce working code - and now i > can't run limewire anymore :-p. but i'm more comfortable in python than > java, so of course i'm gonna prefer to work out tricky problems there :-p) > > a) there was a non-trivial discussion of changing the format of stream > metadata to be more "standard", which I fully support in principal, > however there was no concensus on this, or if there was then it flew over > my head > > b) getting the technology stable - right now, an in node encoding tool is > less usefgul than it could be, because to avoid overloading your node, you > need to split your inserts accross two nodes for a 16kbps stream (this, > btw, is what I'm using the FCP load info for), however at this point, once > the format is stabilised, the decoder end isn't been changing too much. > > c) that question of certain ogg players (of the same version!) playing at > double speed - this one isn't just me, it's come up on the icecast list as > well, at the very least, when i googled for it, but alas no solution, > other than "don't use mono ogg files!", which is , well, unrealistic given > network badnwidth constaints Mono ogg files use very little more bandwidth than stereo ones. Read the papers sometime. > > - fish > > p.s. as an interesting side node, a crazy fucker sent me a patch to stream > *live video*, tho his patch is broken and it's jumpy (as in, you have a > five or more second jump every two minutes), he is still clearly a crazy > montherfucker. >
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