On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:01:10PM +0000, toad wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:26:43AM +0100, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
> > At 11.13 05/02/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > 
> > >> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 12:21:18AM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote:
> > >> > I added a ClientDelete command to the node's FCP implementation to 
> > >delete
> > ...
> > >>
> > >> But why would we make it easier for people to censor their own
> > >> datastores?
> > >>
> > >In a well functioning network ClientDelete should be almost useless as a
> > >censorship tool because of distributed caching of popular data.
> > >
> > >It is for people (organizations? ;-) ) like CofE who are inserting from
> > >transient nodes.
> > >
> > >Deleting keys from the local store and re-requesting them allows freesite
> > >publishers to see whether their content actually made it out into the 
> > >network.
> > >
> > >All I am doing is providing a scalpel to substitute for the sledgehammer
> > >approach that most successful transient inserters are already using -- i.e.
> > >nuking the data store.
> > 
> > AFAIK the Freenet architecture, this tool is an useful debugging
> >  and administration tool.
> > 
> > But AFAIK the security model of Freenet (difficult matter
> >  due to lack of docs) this is just an hole in the "deep security"
> >  model of Freenet as a whole; I cannot say why, because is just another
> >  weapon for an attacker, but I can say that not giving one more weapon
> >  is better.
> It's less obvious than an insertor running 2 nodes on the same IP, no?
Oh. Ohohohohoh. Can we run 2 nodes on the same port in the same VM (with
different FCP/fproxy ports)?
> > 
> > Justifying this choice for usefulness is possible (but the usefulness is
> >  not big, IMHO), but it is impossible give a proof of impossibility to
> >  use this function in an attack.
> > 
> > No way to delete information (other that nuking the node), this is a thick
> >  wall against an attack.
> > 
> > JM2C.    Marco
> > 
> > 
> > * Marco A. Calamari  marco at freenetproject.org *
> > 
> > il  Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco
> > the Freenet  Project - follow the  white rabbit
> > 
> 
> -- 
> The road to Tycho is paved with good intentions



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