>> 0) The current system works. Well, I was already able to connect to one(!) node during the last 30 minutes, so it can't be totally broken if that's what you mean. :-P
>> 1) Now that we have moved rate limiting into the Application layer, nodes >> respond much more often and aggressive connection management is less >> important. Is CP what you meant with aggressive connection management? In my eyes CP influences _routing_ as well (in the sense that it helps deciding which node to connect to when requesting/inserting stuff). If you consider this, I find that IT IS VERY IMPORTANT to make sure that the concepts are sound. >> 3) It does not appear to me that Fred is so well debugged that the >> legions of idle Freenet developpers have nothing better to do with their >> time >> than to rewrite working code. That is certainly a valid argument. But one way of debugging might be to go through the algorithms and see if their concepts are flawed in the first place. I'd say at the moment there are about four people knowing approximately how Freenet works (not that it has ever been different:-P). But debugging could become much more efficient if we make sure that there are more persons *able* to debug, that is to specify and document how it is supposed to work theoretically first. Only this way people can compare theory and practice (thus detecting bugs if they differ) or analyze the theoretical concept. >> Does anyone care whether Freenet ever actually works? Or will it >> always be 2 weeks away? Although I would love to see Freenet working, I find it more important to lay a fundamentally sound base for Freenet first, rather than hacking a somewhat working node now, where nobody really understands all the concepts. If even you, Tavin, and Oskar have different opinions of e.g. what the CP does (or not does), how should other Freenet implementors ever know (remember Fred is only a "reference implementation") how to do stuff. I feel that we should take Steven Hazels critism a bit more seriously. > From an user (er. heavvy user) perspective as mine, this is > definitely the most important thing. Right, but right know user perspective is not the most important perspective IMHO (and I am mostly a user myself). (my personal opinion, YMMV) Sebastian _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl at freenetproject.org http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devl
