On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 08:56:12AM -0500, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> On January 22, 2003 08:47 am, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 11:17:29PM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 21 January 2003 13:59, you wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 06:18:02PM +0100, David 'Bombe' Roden wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, 21. January 2003 18:06, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > > > > > Is the "healing blocks" options switched on by default?  Obviously
> > > > > > it should be or it won't be nearly as effective.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the unstable build it's not option. It's two fields in the
> > > > > download interface. Default (as per gj's code) is 5%, HTL 5. At the
> > > > > moment the min-value for the percentage is 0. We could raise it to 5
> > > > > or 10 to enforce healing...
> > > >
> > > > How is it interfaced? It just runs in the background after the fetch is
> > > > finished?
> > >
> > > The healing blocks are re-inserted after each segment is decoded.  In
> > > that sense it doesn't run in the background.  The data is written before
> > > the healing re-insertions, so for single segment splitfiles the user
> > > shouldn't notice much impact. single segment == <16Mb
> > >
> > > For multisegment downloads it does slow things down slightly.
> > >
> > > > Also, I think the HTL should be raised to 15 or so...
> > >
> > > My thinking is to leave the default as low as is actually useful, and
> > > allow people who want to "sponser" content more actively re-insert at
> > > higher htl's.
> > >
> > > The aggregate effect of people re-inserting even at low htl's should be
> > > pretty substantial.  Has anyone looked into how healing works in
> > > OceanStore? Maybe we could lean on their empirical data to chose
> > > re-insertion percentages/htls in a more principled way.  5 was just a
> > > guess.
> >
> > Ewww. That's not how freenet works. Longer HTLs mean the data gets
> > closer to the keyspace focus, which means it is MUCH more findable, and
> > improves routing. Low HTL reinserts just make it replicate a bit,
> > generally where it shouldn't be. Of course I'd defer to Oskar here, but
> > that's my assessment.
> 
> If I understand your point correctly, you would rather fewer blocks get 
> reinserted but that they be inserted with a higher htl so they are placed 
> where they will be found quickly.  Something like, instead healing 10 blocks 
> at htl 5, do 3 at htl 15...

Actually, the network has been working so well lately that 5 might not
be a bad thing... I'm inclined towards 10 though. Compromize: 4% at HTL
7.
> 
> Ed Tomlinson
> 

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