In message <20030517175737.GE15721 at amphibian.dyndns.org>, Toad 
<toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> writes
>My local setup has a fairly beefy system (1GB RAM, striped IDE disks,
>Athlon XP 1700+) running two nodes. My load average is 7 to 11, and has
>been for the last hour. This includes a bzip2 process running in the
>background to do a backup, but that only contributes one to the load,
>leaving 6-10. My unstable branch node:
>
>Global mean traffic (queries per hour):2084.9733333333334
>Local mean traffic (queries per hour): 495.99005815483434
>Current advertise probability: 0.2083009983444445
>Current proportion of requests being accepted: 1.0
>Current routingTime 76ms
>Active pooled jobs 77 (64.166664%)
>Available threads 20
>Current estimated load 64.166664%
>
>And my stable branch node:
>
>Global mean traffic (queries per hour):3594.457142857143
>Local mean traffic (queries per hour): 1613.9878950907869
>Current advertise probability: 0.02
>Current proportion of requests being accepted: 0.39
>Current routingTime 2099ms
>Active pooled jobs 62 (51.666664%) [QueryRejecting all incoming requests!]
>Available threads 24
>Current estimated load 100.0%
>
>Okay, so one is overloaded, and the other is not.
>
>Hawk runs one node, and:
>
>Global mean traffic (queries per hour):1804.1
>Local mean traffic (queries per hour): 6745.6153500224855
>Current advertise probability: 0.02
>Current proportion of requests being accepted: 0.17
>...
>Active pooled jobs     104 (86.666664%) [QueryRejecting all incoming
>
>However, hawk's sysload is around 1.
>
>What conclusions can be drawn? Mainly, that system load and both local mean
>traffic and the load percentage have absolutely nothing to do with each
>other. The problem with this is that our load balancing mechanism decides
>when it needs more traffic relies on the local mean traffic and the
>accept ratio (which is strongly influenced by the load percentage). Thus
>a node that is struggling to cope with traffic and severely effecting
>the user experience may well think it is not overloaded and solicit more
>traffic through a high datasource reset probability.
>
>One suggestion has been to incorporate the bandwidth utilization
>percentage (if we have a limit set). This may make sense... or it may
>not. Bandwidth utilization has little to do with the actual cost of the
>request... One thing I have suggested in the past has been to measure
>the actual CPU usage, or the system load, on an architecture specific
>basis (on linux, parse /proc/stat, on other unix, parse the output of
>vmstat, on Windoze, use JNI, etc). I would like to point out here that
>transparent portability to arbitrary future or obscure platforms IS NOT
>AND NEVER HAS BEEN A CORE PROJECT GOAL. I have functional java code to
>parse /proc/stat and determine CPU every few seconds (on linux). I
>believe fish has JNI code to find the CPU usage from the JVM on
>Windoze. Since load balancing is fairly critical to a functioning
>Freenet, I would like to add this code to Fred at least as an option.
>Does anyone agree with me?

I wouldn't presume to disagree with your suggestion, but, as a data 
point,  my figures are much as yours above, except load average is 1.5 
to 4 and CPU free is usually 40 to 80%, so CPU utilisation wouldn't work 
for my system.

-- 
Roger Hayter
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