On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:37:04PM +0200, Jan Danielsson wrote: > Please keep the low level/manual interface available as an option for > multinode FCP libraries.
Well you'll have to implement binary and hierarchical metadata. > > > - Historically we have not included any non-web GUI code in Freenet. > > Partly this was because of the total lack of any free implementation > > of Swing. This is being remedied at some speed by RedHat, but I don't > > know if e.g. Frost works on Kaffe... I do think it must be possible to > > use all the basic functionality of Freenet with Free Software only, if > > this is reasonably easily possible. > > Please don't sacrifice resource limiting and performance for the sake > of unfinished Java implementations. I dislike the idea of an application > being suboptimal on my system, because someone else isn't finished with > their clone of Java. Resource limiting? Performance? I don't see what you mean by either, we are talking about GUIs here! > > I do agree that free Java implementations should be supported from an > ideological point of view, but face it: In the end, the clones need to > catch up - the applications shouldn't suffer. Only if there is a REALLY pressing reason not to use new functionality. It's not just about ideology, it's about control, and it's about packaging. It's very hard to package freenet on linux, for example, because most distributions don't have a sun JVM due to sun's absurd policy of only allowing redistribution when bundled with an app. It would also be nice to be able to produce EXEs and save some memory. > > If running Freenet with another Java implementation doesn't work, but > is important to a lot of people, then the developers of those Java > implementations will hear about it, and if they care about useability > (and recieve donations), they will do their best to fix it. I hope. It is not possible for the Classpath folks to debug Freenet 0.5's use of NIO, for example, without help from people who understand the Freenet code. It's just way too complex. -- Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20050831/3289e73b/attachment.pgp>
