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I'm not saying we need to implement 1:1 now, but if this ping utility  
can give us a sense of how viable it is (ie. how long does it take  
for a message to reach a random location - and return to us), then it  
would be useful to know.

Ian.

On 16 Jun 2006, at 10:12, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> The problem is we don't want 1:1 messaging before we have pub/sub or
> passive requests. But it may be useful as a network diagnostic tool...
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 10:08:53AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
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>> Well, before we remove it, I would be interested to know what we can
>> learn from it.  For example, what is the average ping time for a
>> network location?  This could help us to determine the viability of
>> real-time messaging in Freenet.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>> On 16 Jun 2006, at 09:19, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>>
>>> The node still includes routed ping support. This essentially is  
>>> a way
>>> to ping a location. The ping is routed, within the limits of HTL.
>>> It was
>>> used for testing the code in quasi-simulation, and may still be  
>>> useful
>>> for that purpose. The question is, should it be disabled on the main
>>> network? It is not sufficiently reliable to be a useful  
>>> communication
>>> mechanism, especially when you consider that it is directed to a
>>> node location, not to a node identity... It might be possible to  
>>> ping
>>> locations from the list captured for network size estimation, and
>>> thereby estimate how many of them are still online. However, it is
>>> unreliable, and spoofable.
>>>
>>> Is it a security risk?
>>> -- 
>>> Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
>>> Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
>>> ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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