[19:26] <FuriousRage> hmm, the problem with my node dying constantly
seams to sort of be solver now when i run sun java 1.6.0-beta
[19:43] <FuriousRage> toad_: 1.6 seams to work much better for me in
windows with freenet then 1.4 and 1.5 did ;>
[19:43] <FuriousRage> but my node havent died for a few hours now
[19:44] <FuriousRage> ;>
[19:44] <toad_> FuriousRage: your node was dying on windows?
[19:44] <toad_> what do you mean, with backoff?
[19:44] <Ricky_081> toad_: I have 1.6, too - seems stable on a suse
linux 10 machine
[19:44] <toad_> Ricky_081: define stable ?
[19:44] <FuriousRage> toad_: not backed off
[19:44] <toad_> hmmm, interesting
[19:44] <toad_> FuriousRage: your node was dying on windows?
[19:44] <toad_> what do you mean, with backoff?
[19:44] <Ricky_081> toad_: I have 1.6, too - seems stable on a suse
linux 10 machine
[19:44] <toad_> Ricky_081: define stable ?
[19:44] <FuriousRage> toad_: not backed off
[19:44] <toad_> hmmm, interesting
[19:47] <sandos__> Ive never seen ping times freeze on windows+1.5.06
[19:47] <FuriousRage> it did it all the time for me
[19:47] <Ricky_081> toad_: higher cpu power used. - But also new kernel
with 1kHz timer
[19:48] <Ricky_081> toad_: and voluntary krenel preemption enabled
[19:49] <Ricky_081> toad_: kernel 2.6.13-15.10 for P IV compiled
[19:50] <Ricky_081> toad_: CONNECTED: 18 | BACKED OFF: 8 ==> before ot
was about 4 connected, the rest was backed off
[19:52] <Ricky_081> sandos: my pingtimes "exploded" on linux+1.5.06 -
first they were about 300ms, then they raised to 1k but no upstream used
and processor idle
[19:53] <sandos__> ok
[19:53] <sandos__> how are they now?
[19:54] <Ricky_081> sandos: between 200 and 400ms
[19:54] <Ricky_081> sandos: with 16 nodes connected and 35kByte/s
upstream

On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 08:33:27PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Some folk say 1.6 may fix the problem. Feedback would be appreciated.
> 
> On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 09:05:32PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > According to edt, non-NPTL operation of the JVM is not supported on
> > 64-bit platforms.
> > 
> > So that is yet another reason why the hack that we used in 0.5 isn't the
> > right solution. It doesn't work on 64-bit. It doesn't work on Fedora
> > Core 5, and it probably won't work on recent SuSE either.
> > 
> > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:40:39PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > It would be useful to know for sure that this happens on 1.6 beta and
> > > 1.5.0_07... Anyone?
> > > 
> > > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 05:53:21PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > > Another 3 stack traces here, of a different lost lock (still around
> > > > PacketSender).
> > > > 
> > > > http://amphibian.dyndns.org/argh.2.txt
> > > > 
> > > > The obvious solution would seem to be - and has been in the past -
> > > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Unfortunately there are systems on which this causes a
> > > > crash by itself e.g. some gentoo's, and nextgens tells me that some
> > > > users seem to get the same bug on Windows, although this is difficult to
> > > > confirm as they can't easily get a stack trace.
> > > > 
> > > > For me this is triggered by inserts.
> > > > 
> > > > It is known to happen on 1.4.2 and 1.5.0_06 (Sun *and* Blackdown).
> > > > 
> > > > What we DO need to know is if it happens on Windows. Anyone who can get
> > > > a stack dump on a Windows node, watch out for all nodes getting backed
> > > > off due to Timeout3 or AcceptedTimeout (the same reason on all or most
> > > > nodes), and get some stack dumps. Our past experience is that this is an
> > > > NPTL issue and therefore linux-specific.
> > > > 
> > > > IBM isn't tested yet. GCJ/GIJ should be immune, and nextgens is working
> > > > on that.
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:27:30PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > > > Observe the two stack traces here:
> > > > > http://amphibian.dyndns.org/argh.txt
> > > > > 
> > > > > Look at PacketSender in both cases. There were some seconds between
> > > > > them, but they're both the same. It has locked one lock, and it is
> > > > > waiting for the other. The other lock is not held by any thread.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is accompanied by wierd symptoms: Every node is backed off 
> > > > > because
> > > > > of an AcceptedTimeout.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In conclusion? The current 0.7 code triggers a JVM bug - at least on 
> > > > > my
> > > > > machine - which kills us. I've seen the same thing with logging.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any ideas for a way forward? Or any ideas for why I am wrong (I hope I
> > > > > am)? This is consistent, I just did another one, many minutes later. 
> > > > > It
> > > > > always has:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "PacketSender thread for 0" daemon prio=1 tid=0x0825bbd8 nid=0x8c0
> > > > > waiting for monitor entry [0xb11ff000..0xb11ff5c0]
> > > > > at freenet.node.KeyTracker.getNextUrgentTime(KeyTracker.java:790)
> > > > > - waiting to lock <0x7ef4d718> (a
> > > > >   freenet.support.UpdatableSortedLinkedListWithForeignIndex)
> > > > > at freenet.node.PeerNode.getNextUrgentTime(PeerNode.java:641)
> > > > > - locked <0x7e129c78> (a freenet.node.PeerNode)
> > > > > at freenet.node.PacketSender.realRun(PacketSender.java:85)
> > > > > at freenet.node.PacketSender.run(PacketSender.java:47)
> > > > > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
> > > > > 
> > > > > And in all 3 cases, (and with the same problem with logging earlier),
> > > > > 0x7ef4d718 is not locked by any thread.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And it's not looping; it's the same lock it's trying to get, and the
> > > > > same lock it's got already, in all 3 cases.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is with sun java 1.5.0_06.
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
> > > > > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
> > > > > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
> > > > 
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