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|> Mind you, they're studying at the department of computer science in one
|> of our best Universities for 3+ years, at least one of them runs Linux
|> on his laptop, so all in all they're quite above the average level when
|> it comes to using a computer.
|
| If you ignore the warning to not close the main firefox window before the
| customised one, you WILL end up with your firefox profile default set
to the
| freenet profile. Which is BAD.

Yes, I know *why* this happens. As I've written below, tinkering with
browser settings is something that not a single common-user-oriented
application I know does (and I'm not even sure that installer actually
*asks* to install a custom profile). Most people are completely unaware
that Firefox actually supports multiple profiles (many probably don't
even know what profile is at all). So even computer-literate users
aren't prepared to what they see when Freenet opens FF for the first time.

|> I'm not pushing for any immediate changes, but perhaps being more
|> user-friendly regarding the custom FF profile is something to consider
|> for 0.7.1?
|
| I'd welcome any suggestions. So far, afaics the options are:
| 1) Fix the Firefox bug that causes the profile resetting. -no-remote
should
| cause it not only to not coalesce with an existing Firefox copy, but
also not
| to write to the default profile. Also find a new skin that works with
FF3,
| and ideally is a little more stable!

Well, current skin is terrible, just IMHO, of course. Also, at least on
Windows, Firefox had asked me when Freenet ran for the first time if I
want to set the "freenet" profile as default - maybe something was fixed
by the FF devs themselves?

| In any case we should make it obvious to the user that the freenet
browser has
| something to do with Freenet.

Yes, I agree with that. Maybe showing a screenshot in the installer and
telling the user that if your FF looks like this, then you're working
with Freenet? Just to make them more ready?

|> On a somewhat related note, I also got several reports that Freenet
|> works very well. Interestingly, many students have discovered and began
|> using FMS, but no one had mentioned Frost so far. Some have also found
|> Thaw and told me that "it's not working", I know that Thaw's not without
|> its share of bugs, but it *did* work for me when I was trying it out.
|> Could it be DoSed now just as Frost is?
|
| I doubt it. Maybe it's just not very user friendly?

Most likely. VolodyA suggested that they hadn't subscribed to any
indices, that could be true. When I ran it, I also had intermittent
problems where Thaw randomly refused to talk to the node, disabling
multiple simultaneous FCP connections helped with that, but I doubt
that's the case now - too advanced ;-). I'll try to find out more, but
it'll only be possible next week.

Regards,
Victor Denisov.
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