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> From: devl-bounces at freenetproject.org 
> [mailto:devl-bounces at freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of sashee
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
> To: Discussion of development issues
> Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Our current web interface and its usability
> 
> Hi xor!
> 
> As I'm the GSoC student who will be working on the web 
> interface this summer, I feel I'm the one to respond.
> My proposal is not on plain rewriting the current GUI, and 
> make it different, but to make it more dynamic. It primarily 
> means introducing server pushing, and it just means, that the 
> pages are updated automatically, without the need of 
> reloading. My favorite example for this is Gmail: you keep it 
> open, and you see the new mails. I think it too, that the 
> current layout is usable, and have no intentions to change 
> it(and btw, I'm a programmer and not a designer).
> Because of the above, the users won't experience redesign, 
> change of layout, or usability decreases.

Sounds great.
Could you have a look at the usuability issues which I have filed in the bug
tracker and decide whether you could fix them first, in trunk, so we can
have them released with 0.8? 0.8 will have to be released before GSoC is
finished.

> 
> >From the developer's(most likely plugin developer's) view, these
> changes will affect most of the web API, so some rewriting 
> will most likely will be needed. As the GSoC results have 
> just been announced, I have no clear plans for the 
> implementation, but they will be discussed in the mailing 
> list. I'm sure we will come up with a solution that is both 
> effective and easy to implement plugins' interfaces for.
> 
> Greetings, sashee

That is okay. However, you should consider working on your own branch in SVN
and not in trunk because we need to get trunk finished and stable to be able
to release 0.8. Is that okay?

Your dynamic javascript stuff could also help me with Freetalk, dynmic
notifications upon message retrieval, etc.

Greetings, xor

> 
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:05 PM, xor <xor at gmx.li> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I have followed all the discussions about writing a new web 
> interface 
> > and I would like to state my opinion on that:
> >
> > We DO NOT need a new web interface. Our current web 
> interface is easy 
> > to use, works well, is sufficient, and it is also easy to write 
> > plugins which use it - I've worked with it for WoT and 
> Freetalk and it was fun.
> >
> > I also installed Freenet to some newbies which are a bit geeky and 
> > they all said "Wow it's impressive what you can do with the web 
> > interface, most file sharing applications do not have such 
> a powerful one".
> >
> > The current web interface just needs a few usability 
> improvements and 
> > maybe a little scripting IMHO. Writing a new one right now 
> would IMHO 
> > be a major waste of time if our core developers had to do it. They 
> > should first concentrate on getting the core features of 
> Freenet rock 
> > solid, fixing bugs, etc. As soon as we cannot think of any 
> core stuff 
> > which has to be done anymore we can write a new web 
> interface but for 
> > now this would be a major waste of time because we will RUN OUT OF 
> > USERS if we do not release a stable
> > 0.8 soon.
> >
> > To help with the improvement of the current UI, I have 
> already filed > 
> > 10 bugs in the useability category, all regarding fproxy. 
> I'm trying 
> > to find every little piece which is confusing, every word 
> which is not 
> > well chosen and everything which is missing. So if anyone wants to 
> > work on the web interface, go to the usability category on 
> > bugs.freenetproject.org
> >
> > Further, I have translated some of the missing german strings and 
> > improved some of the english ones, and here is my idea how 
> to improve 
> > the UI user experience as a genral, IMHO everyone should 
> have that idea on his mind:
> >
> > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=3030
> >
> > Greetings, xor
> >
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