Hi, Am 08.04.2010 17:42, schrieb Evan Daniel: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Matthew Toseland > <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote: >> On Tuesday 06 April 2010 18:17:33 artur wrote: ... >> >> On the other hand, Frost is broken by design, Freetalk will be integrated in >> the node soon (how soon nobody knows), and if we put it back on the homepage >> the spammer may come out of the woodwork. >> >> Anyone else have an opinion?
Ok, Frost is spamable (like nearly every other communication system in the internet). So, I would not call this "broken by design", but I know which problems the spammer caused for frost. > > I think if we link to it, we should support it, at least to a point. > I'd rather we weren't. But, we seem to be doing that regardless, > so... OTOH, I think we should have a messaging system of some sort, > and that isn't yet Freetalk. And I don't know whether it's better to > link to a messaging system that's so spammed it's unusable, or link to > nothing. Do you support Freemail? Freesite? FMS? Are you in one way or another connected to the content published on the various index pages, linked in the default bookmarks? I think the freenet authors do not want to associate them self with what is on that pages. The way a search engine does not account them self responsible for their search results... Frost is a good tool for Freenet. Without Frost, Freenet would have had a lot of less active users, an so it would have today. It has been the main communication tool within Freenet for years. Today there is a strong alternative with FMS, but I could argue that FMS is brogen by design as well. When Freenet is all about anti censorship, FMS is the tool to bring it back. I don't want to say it is bad, but it has its own disadvantages. Frost is also a download manager. Fuqid might do a better job as a stand alone tool, but it is not cross platform, has never been really Freenet 0.7 compatible and its development has been abandoned. (Just in comparison: Frost has had 17 Commits last month.) And a good download tool is wanted by the community (1) Freetalk: Frost will also work as a Freetalk frontend. So, introducing the more spam resistent freetalk will not make Frost obsolete. The integration is not yet complete, but the basics have already been implemented... (1) http://freenet.uservoice.com/forums/8861-general/suggestions/156393-write-a-killer-file-sharing-application?ref=title Cheers artur
