In http://groups.google.com/group/simile-widgets on Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM, David Huynh <dfhu...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
I've updated the trunk to fix #1 http://trunk.simile-widgets.org/timeline/examples/compact-painter/compact-painter.html Let me know how it feels. This is a great improvement! I liked the new interface enough that I wanted to try it out in Xwiki: example: http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/TimelineTrunk/test code: http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/TimelineTrunk/test?raw=1 http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/TimelineTrunk/StyleSheet?raw=1 http://nielsmayer.com/xwiki/bin/view/TimelineTrunk/DataJson?raw=1 Niels http://nielsmayer.com > > Larry, if you have some time, I'd be grateful for some help on > implementing your #2 point. It's been a while since I touch all the > settings in Timeline and don't remember how they propagate. After that, > maybe we should consider a 2.4 release. > > David > > David Huynh wrote: > > OK, sounds like we have consensus... I'll implement them when I get a > > chance. > > > > David > > > > John Callahan wrote: > > > >> I totally agree with both of Larry's cents. Items 1) and 2) as Larry > >> described them would work very well for my applications. > >> > >> - John > >> > >> > >> > >> Larry Kluger wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I like David's slim scrollbar, I think it's more attractive than the > >>> usual windows toolbar. > >>> I also agree with David's point that a standard window toolbar may > >>> influence people away from realizing that they can scroll a Timeline > >>> along the time axis. > >>> > >>> My 2 cents on the issue are: > >>> 1) The scrollbar should always be visible if there are more events > >>> than can be shown on the available tracks. It should be usable as a > >>> handle for moving the Timeline since its affordance is to act as a > handle. > >>> (Affordance is a UI term. An object's affordance is the behavior that > >>> we expect from an object, given its appearance and context.) > >>> > >>> 2) I think the bouncing off the top and bottom of the band effect is > >>> great for when the touch gesture is used on an iPhone, iTouch, or some > >>> of the newer Macs. But having it occur as the result of a > >>> mouse-interaction doesn't feel right to me. I'd appreciate some way to > >>> turn that behavior off and I don't recommend it as a default (except > >>> when the browser has a touch interface). > >>> > >>> Note that Timeline works pretty well out of the box on the iTouch. > >>> Enabling the Timeline to be scrolled vertically really solves one of > >>> the few problems with Timeline on an iPhone etc. The only other issue > >>> is to change the bubbles' show/hide UI when used with an iPhone. > >>> That's on my list. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Larry > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> *From:* David Huynh <dfhu...@alum.mit.edu> > >>> *To:* simile-widg...@googlegroups.com > >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:17:24 AM > >>> *Subject:* Re: dragging vertically in timelines > >>> > >>> > >>> David Karger wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> you mean use a native vertical scrollbar? That would seem to create a > >>>> "mixed metaphor" ui; > >>>> > >>>> > >>> That was one of the reasons I didn't want to use a native vertical > >>> scrollbar. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> i am guessing you can come up with a better > >>>> consistent metaphor. It took me quite a while to notice the vertical > >>>> scrollbar, and I'm puzzled why it is "read only". > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> The intention is that it's only an indicator, and the body of the band > >>> is the interactor. > >>> > >>> I think people ain't used to scrolling horizontally as much, so if > >>> vertical scrolling were any more emphasized than it is, then that might > >>> totally inhibit any hint that horizontal scrolling is possible. (A > >>> native vertical scrollbar would really emphasize vertical scrolling.) > >>> But I could be wrong. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> farfetched, but what if you made the timeline into a "barrel" that > >>>> rolled away at the top and bottom (images shrinking) to indicate there > >>>> is more present? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> "Barrel" like this? > >>> http://z.about.com/d/ipod/1/0/e/3/-/-/iphone_gallery_10.jpg > >>> I can add some gradients. > >>> > >>> David > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "SIMILE Widgets" group. > To post to this group, send email to simile-widg...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > simile-widgets+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<simile-widgets%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/simile-widgets?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
