On Sep 28, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Vincent Massol wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I'd like to start a overhaul of the xwiki.org home page + a first >>> level navigation overhaul. >>> >>> Today: >>> * Home page = list the different products >>> * First level nav = the ecosystem panel >>> >>> Problems: >>> * We now have a single product: XE and all the others are actually >>> modules that plugin into the main products. Hence we shouldn't focus >>> on other products so much IMO. >>> * I'd like to view xwiki.org as a forge of projects. Today our top >>> level projects are the ones listed here: >> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/ >>> * The main page should be more dynamic and show some news and >>> activity >>> instead of being static >>> * People are confused by the top level navigation vs the second >>> level >>> one because they both use panels and it's not easy to >>> differentiate them >> > > We should also collect the result of the XWiki.org feedback form, > there are > plenty of interesting items in them. I'll make an Excel file with the > results available and I'll import it on XWiki.org to be used as a > reference.
Good idea. Note that I've taken into account the xwiki.org feedbacks I had read (and I read them all) but not in a systematic manner, more by remembering what they were about. >>> Proposal: >>> >>> * Use a horizontal top level navigation with the following items >>> (from >>> left to right): >>> - Overview or Home (the main page) >>> - Platform >>> - Projects (when clicked will list all top level projects) - We >>> could >>> have the list of subproject available as submenu items too (as it's >>> done on http://jboss.org/) >>> - Support (when clicked will explain the various ways to get support >>> including mailing list/forum, irc/jabber, FAQ & listing companies >>> offering commercial support) >>> - Contribute or Community (when clicked we'll get dev.xwiki.org) >>> - Playground >> > > Those top categories sound good to me. One question though: where > could > code.xwiki.org fit? Under the Community header? Or under an > additional entry > such as "Modules" or "Code Zone" or "Applications" ? I had thought about it but forgot to add it. Yes I wanted to put it as an additional horizontal tab. It's a very important tab IMO so it needs to be very visible. Now we need to decide how we call it since Code Zone is not a good name. It's both a place where people will find extensions and a place where they'll find reference documentation. Maybe "Extensions" is ok, especially since the App Manager is an Extension Manager. In that case we'll need to move the Reference doc for Modules elsewhere but I think that's ok and normal. >>> This means that the panels on the right will become the second level >>> navigation and the content will depend completely on where you are >>> on >>> the site. >>> >>> * Have some facilities links in the header on the right: >>> - News >>> - Downloads (as a visible button maybe) >> > > News could be part of the horizontal top level navigation. I think that's too many horizontal tabs and not that important compared to the rest, especially since the home page contains news. > Having "Download" as a big, easy-to-see button at the top of all pages > sounds good. > > We might want to make the Download page less crowded by hiding all the > download options for each product and display them only when the > product > gets clicked upon using JS. > > >>> >>> * On the home page: >>> - Have a nice diagram of the xwiki platform that shows how XE, XE >>> modules are positioned on the platform so that people understand >>> right >>> away that xwiki is a collaborative web dev platform >>> - Have a Highlight box with XE so that users looking for a full- >>> fledged wiki can quickly see it and click on it + maybe one featured >>> screenshot of an entry from the References page that would be >>> different every time the page is refreshed (this could encourage >>> people to add references + provide a link to the references >>> directly) >>> - Have a Featured project box and list 3-4 featured projects (XE, >>> XEM, >>> XEclipse, XOffice for ex to start with) >>> - Have some news: >>> -- latest 5 blog post titles >>> -- latest 5 code zone additions (all snippet, plugins, macro, apps, >>> etc included) >>> -- latest 5 mailing list threads subjects (with links to our nabble >>> forum) >> > > Sounds a bit busy. I think the most important items are: > > - XE > - Latest news I'm not sure. For me establishing XWiki as a paltform is more important than XE so I'd really like that from the home page the users understands that XWiki is an ecosystem. If we remove XE/News, what remains are Features projects and Platform diagram. Anyway before deciding about the exact content let's see some mockup ideas of what it could look like. > For all the others we could display them on their relevant level 2 > homepages. > > I think we should play with mockups in order to come up with a > homepage that > shows the breadth of XWiki without looking overcrowded or confusing. yep Thanks -Vincent > > Other than that I'm +1 with the general idea. > > Guillaume > > >>> We could not have any second level navigation for the home page in >>> order to have more space for displaying the elements above. >>> >>> WDYT? >> >> Big +1 >> >> I would also move panels to the left. It's more natural to find links >> there. >> >> Jerome. >>> >>> If/when we're ok in term of content maybe Cati (or anyone >>> interested) >>> could provide some mockups of what it could look like. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>> PS: Let's not get bogged down with details at this point. I think >>> what's important is to make progress and refine later on. What's >>> important is that we agree on the broad lines at this stage. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
