On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: > On 11/04/2009 03:09 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: >> >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: >> >>> Ok the vote is passed. >>> >>> I'm sarting to work on it: >>> - Execute the tests on XE pages >>> - Creating discrete jira issues whenever there are problems on >>> pages, small enough so that they can be tackled one by one >>> - I'll flag issues with the "wcag" keyword in jira >>> >>> However for the implementation work (ie fixing the jira issues) I'll >>> need all devs' help. >> >> I've started documenting our rules (what we've agreed at so far - >> will >> keep adding as we agree on rules) at: >> - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/XhtmlCssCodeStyle > > We should also follow the ATAG guidelines: > http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/atag.php
I think we should focus on WCAG first and look at this later on so that we have a chance of finishing something :) Re WCAG I've found this other checker: http://achecker.ca/checker/index.php Seems like it's giving some different result than the Dutch Guidelines checker (it allows to test against WCAG 1.0 and 2.0 and with the different levels). Still haven't found a java source for automated WCAG tests though. Still looking... -Vincent >> - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Testing >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Vincent Massol wrote: >>> >>>> Hi devs, >>>> >>>> Can I get some votes on whether we want to do this or not? >>>> >>>> So far I've only received a -0 from Marius but on a specific item >>>> and not in general. >>>> >>>> I'd like that we start working on this ASAP by doing the following: >>>> - Execute the tests on XE pages >>>> - Creating discrete jira issues whenever there are problems on >>>> pages, small enough so that they can be tackled one by one >>>> - Start fixing the issues >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>> On Oct 28, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi devs, >>>>> >>>>> We've always tried to follow standards in the XWiki project. I'd >>>>> like to propose that we start adhering to the WCAG ones to make >>>>> XWiki even more accessible. >>>>> >>>>> The reason I'm proposing this is because XWiki SAS has been >>>>> contacted by some Dutch organization promoting the usage of >>>>> standards in Netherlands and they're interested in using XWiki for >>>>> their site. As such they need that the wiki they use also follows >>>>> the guidelines... They've found XWiki since it was one of the >>>>> wikis out there that follows most closely the guidelines. >>>>> >>>>> This is our opportunity to meet the WCAG guidelines and go even >>>>> beyond (since the Dutch guidelines go slightly further I believe, >>>>> see http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/guidelines/). We would be >>>>> the first wiki to meet this! >>>>> >>>>> If we agree we'll need to find some ways to automate the execution >>>>> of the verifications. Right now we can test pages using this >>>>> validator: >>>>> http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/test/ >>>>> >>>>> I've started verifying this page: >>>>> http://playground.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ >>>>> >>>>> Result: >>>>> http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/test/report/74721/179372/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Some examples of failing stuff: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Style attribute forbidden. Everything from CSS. >>>>> >>>>> Ex from home page: >>>>> <div id="globallinks"> <form action="/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ >>>>> WebSearch" style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> <div >>>>> id="globalsearch"> >>>>> <input id="globalsearchinput" type="text" name="text" >>>>> value="search..." size="15" class="withTip"/><input class="button" >>>>> value="Go" type="image" src="/xwiki/resources/icons/xwiki/ >>>>> search.png"/> </div> </form> </div> >>>>> ... >>>>> <div class="hidden" id="spSpaceCreateForm"><form action="/xwiki/ >>>>> bin/view/Main/?xpage=create" method="post"> <div> <input >>>>> name="tocreate" type="hidden" value="space"></input> <input >>>>> class="panelinput" name="title" onblur="if(this.value=='') >>>>> this.value='Space name'" onfocus="if(this.value=='Space name') >>>>> this.value=''" style="margin:auto;" type="text" value="Space >>>>> name"></input> <input type="submit" value="Create"></input> </ >>>>> div> >>>>> </form> </div> >>>>> ... >>>>> <p style="font-size:0.75em;padding-left:8px;"><a href="/xwiki/bin/ >>>>> inline/Panels/QuickLinks">(Edit this panel)</a></p> >>>>> >>>>> 2) Need to run CSS Level 2.1 validation. Lots of error. For ex on >>>>> home page: http://bit.ly/4x9YlM >>>>> 3) Apparently we made a mistake by choosing to have 2 H1 (one for >>>>> title and for headers). "The document hierarchy contains more that >>>>> one h1 tags .". >>>>> >>>>> Before going further I'd like to ensure that we all agree to >>>>> follow these guidelines and put in our best practices (and ensure >>>>> we verify with some automated tests later on). >>>>> Here's my +1 >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
