Hi,

>We need some kind of consistency - we can't just remove some indications
and
>leave others. The big problem is that the importance of the fields can be
>subjective from one person to another.

A agree to this. Yet there is some possible questionnements about an other
constraint.
--- Usability design is always soooo made of crossed constraints. I'm sorry
to come and make questionnements after a five minuts look on something you
have balanced hours. Experience show that cross creation with users and
other designers is always enhancing designs. Yet it stays a long process of
agregating partial points in the main-designer global vision so if it is
something you have already seen and balanced don't loose time, just tell
when it is in conflict with another point. ;-)  ---

So, what is freigntening me is that the number of elements and the
altenances field-name/field-content may make it diffcult to scan the list.
Since users generally start looking for informations in scan mode it can be
a limitation.


By removing the "first name" and "last name" fieds (*since this information
is already at the top*) we can limit this.
Yet the question wich appear next is how to differentiate the name and the
surname ?"

Just imagine someone named :
 "Gerolino Cadroli Madoree Plalerma"

Having the name in bold/little stronguer can be a point :
"Geronimo Cdroli MANDOREE PALERMA"
(in bold or best in capitals with the accents)

There is a code wich says that the name is stronguer writtenend than the
surname. Yet we have to check the relevance of this code worldwide before
using it.


I would like to check the relevance ot this, is the code available somewhere
? (I'm sorry I'm not a dev so I'm a bit lost in using svn)


About my comments about the "contact" part just forget it for the moment.
There is a separation wich makes it ok with a 3 points lists. (we could do
other things wich would create other constraints so I think the value is too
poor)


Thanks

Thibaut

2009/11/5 Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]>

> >
> > Can I make a sugestion to symplify the fields ?
> > Just removing semantic indications that are not mandatory
> >
>
> We need some kind of consistency - we can't just remove some indications
> and
> leave others. The big problem is that the importance of the fields can be
> subjective from one person to another.
>
>
> > -- John Martins --
> > (remove name from list since it is already at the top ?)
> >
>
> It's at the top because there is a way to enter that information in the
> profile's form. I wanted to keep the position of the fields the same in
> view
> mode and edit mode. So if we make some fields disappear in one view, this
> can lead to some confusion.
>
>
> > (maybe put the username a little stronger than usersurname to make sur it
> > differentiate for foreign names ?)
> >
>
> I don't think we need to more differentiate some fields from the others.
>  They are already in categories. The field's name are descriptive enough
> not
> to produce confusions.
>
> Description :
> > (first, as a personalized, more "eye contact" part ?)
> > Hello, I'm an IT engineer !
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > In modify mode, maybe put the aditional semantic needed in grey in the
> > field
> > ?
> >
>
> I'm not sure I understand what are "aditional semantic" . You mean the
> field's name?
>
>
> > >
> >
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserTabsProposal
> > > Proposal 2
> >
> > I prefer to keep the photo near the name. More coherent in semantic. (so
> > people ++ make link with name and face)
> > I know that it may be not evident with the list. Because of blank space ?
> > Tabs Vs List : Tabs is theorically more structuring and immediatly seen,
> > yet, yes, I like the list more. It lightweight the structure.
> >
> >
> The UserTabs are still work in progress. Thank you.
>
>
> > >>> Does he have the ability to control the resize and the centering?
> >
> > >Not for a first version I agree (unless we use a library that does
> > >it). However for the future it's a UX thing.
> >
> > I agree to say it is an UX thing because users may hate to have a bad
> > cropping of them photo.
> >
> > I think it become good UX only when transparent in most of cases (default
> > crop proposal being ok on most standard photos + just upload - show the
> > photo (can re-crop if needed) - validate).
>
>
> Thank you Thibaut for all your feedback :)
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