On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I'd like to move this topic forward. Thus I've now created a draft of the
>> XWiki.org Governance that gathers what I had proposed at
>> http://markmail.org/message/fxqvprtbb5vyog6g
>> 
>> The Governance page is currently at:
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Governance
>> 
> 
> Sounds good overall. As one could expect, the 2 gray areas to me are:
> 
> "The notion of active is currently left to the appreciation of the XWiki
> Committers."
> and
> "Right now the definition of contribution level is not strictly defined"
> 
> I would be ok to go ahead without those 2 specified more closely but I'd be
> in favor of defining at least a loose metric or some indicators that would
> be publicly displayed somewhere so that anyone could come and see for
> himself, "this is where most commits come from". Some kind of public
> dashboard maybe, similar to the one we have at:
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ProjectHealth
> but updated in real time with the names of the committers & their number of
> commits - if that's doable of course.
> 
> WDYT?

For the second once I've defined some loose metrics already. Don't you agree 
with them? I could just remove "Right now the definition of contribution level 
is not strictly defined" if we agree.

For the first one, if we really want a definition (I'm not sure we need one and 
the pb with one is that it'll never be strictly enforced and would be too rigid 
IMO) there's the one I suggested, which is one commit every month but the pb 
with that kind of metric is that you could just do a code reformatting and be 
done with it. That's why I don't like strict metric in this case. Now you could 
say "significative commit" but then you need to define "significative". IMO 
it's very easy for a human to judge if someone is active or not and then the 
committers can decide together to remove someone from the list if they judge 
that the company is not participating anymore and doesn't deserve to be listed.

So it would work like this:
* a company has one committer active at some point, it's listed
* after some time the company doesn't participate anymore
* at some point someone in the community notices it and the committers decide 
what to do with its listing

In any case a governance isn't static. We'll refine it as we progress and 
anyone can propose variations to it. I feel that there's enough in there to get 
started.

WDYT?

Thanks
-Vincent

> Guillaume
> 
> 
>> Please review it and vote. The idea is then to move it to
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance in a few days.
>> 
>> As usual, non committers don't have binding votes but are still very much
>> encouraged to give their opinions. Their voice is especially more important
>> on this topic since most committers are from XWiki SAS and thus I feel we
>> need at least a general agreement from the community at large before doing
>> anything.
>> 
>> Thanks a lot
>> -Vincent
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