On 11/14/2011 03:49 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi devs/Anca,

On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Anca Luca wrote:

On 11/14/2011 02:32 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Nov 14, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Anca Luca wrote:

On 11/14/2011 01:51 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote:

+1,

Also, what about the Dashboard macro itself? Can it be moved inside
something like
xwiki-platform/xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-dashboard/xwiki-platform-dashboard-macro?
It's a wiki macro. I wouldn't create a new app just for it. IMO it's very fine 
in the Dashboard app and would be overkill to create a new app just for 1 page 
(I also don't see what it would bring more).
?

dashboard macro is not a 'wiki macro' as in it's not in a wiki page, it's in a 
java module. It would make a bit sense to move it in it's own module since it's 
a bit of a rebel macro: it uses and depends on the platform-oldcore which is 
not really what rendering macros do…
My bad. I mixed it with the activity macro.

Indeed it's not a wiki macro and I completely agree with Eddy's suggestion :)

Otherwise I have nothing against putting all that in a dashboard application ( 
0 ), as long as it's preserving the behaviour.

Just as an experience to share: upgrading Main.WebHome is really really 
annoying, on multiwikis, we need to make a script or so everytime we make 
changes in the default main.webhome, so in this case too. I gained this 
experience when i changed the main.webhome in order to introduce dashboards on 
it, and everybody that upgraded farms complained about having to upgrade each 
main.webhome manually. We should avoid this.
Actually someone upgrading will see have its Main.Dashboard page present unless 
we removes it. So it should be fine.
I don't understand. What does Main.Dashboard have to do with Main.WebHome? 
since some version (3.2-m-something), Main.WebHome is a standalone dashboard, 
it's not using Main.Dashboard, it has and uses its own dashboard (gadgets are 
stored in the page itself). It only uses Main.Welcome to grab the welcome text 
which needs to be translated in all languages so we put it in a separate page.
My idea is the following:

* Have a Dashboard.WebHome page which displays the "main" dashboard which could 
be either the wiki dashboard or the user dashboard
* Have Quick Links Panel 's Dashboard link to point to Dashboard.WebHome
* Have Main.WebHome's content to be {{include document="Dashboard.WebHome" 
context="new"/}}

My rationale is that:
* we should have a place in the wiki to display the "main" dashboard and have a 
link to it from the UI (this is the Quick Links Panel + The Dashboard space which would 
now appear in the list of spaces)
* it just happens that we want by default the Main.WebHome to display the 
"main" dashboard but an admin/user might want to display something else and 
having a single include with no gadgets in it makes it easy to do
* If users want to create a space dashboard they'd simply use {{dashboard/}} 
for their space (and later on they'd use a space template for example)
* I find it a bit strange right now that we have 2 "official" dashboards: the 
Main.WebHome one and the Main.Dashboard one

it's the same rationale: Main.Dashboard is the official wiki dashboard, Main.WebHome just happens to be a dashboard (it could be anything else). I think we chose this approach (a different dashboard instead of an include) for the same reason, to allow the main.webhome to be changed while the official wiki dashboard still stays as a dashboard. And an include was sort of technically hard to do because we wanted to keep Main.Dashboard as a something that can be used by the space dashboards, if we decide to break this behaviour (and I think we could since creating a dashboard in the space webhome is not that hard + we should provide a template rather than a page to include) it will be easier to have an unique wiki db which is used on main.webhome.

(it's official because the Quick Links Panel points to it). I think one is good 
enough by default. Actually I think that the current Main.Dashboard is probably 
more a Space Template Dashboard, which we could keep in Dashboard, as 
Dashboard.DashboardTemplate for example if we want to keep it (not sure it's 
needed at this stage though).

WDYT?

Sounds pretty decent to me, provided that we find a proper way to make sure that if users edit Main.WebHome as a dashboard, they are aware that they're changing the wiki dashboard (impacting the wiki dashboard which is linked from the quick links).

Thanks,
Anca


Thanks
-Vincent

I'm talking about the fact that if Main.WebHome changes code (and it will since 
you plan to remove the user dashboard logic from it), you need to have an 
automated way of updating all the main.webhome s on a farm.

However I agree that it would be great to have some wiki migrators.

Do you have a suggestion?
I don't know, i would need to look at some code (to see how other migration 
works, etc). From my pov, I think even a script on extensions. xwiki.org could 
do the job, which just upgrades all main.webhomes or gives some checkboxes for 
the user to select which one, I don't know. I cannot really answer this 
question now.

Anca

Thanks
-Vincent

Thanks,
Anca

Thanks
-Vincent

Thus, we would also have something like
xwiki-platform/xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-dashboard/xwiki-platform-dashboard-ui
for the xwiki pages. This would organize it more like a feature.

WDYT?

Thanks,
Eduard

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<[email protected]>wrote:

+1

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Vincent Massol<[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi devs,

I'd like to introduce a Dashboard Application in a
xwiki-platform/xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-dashboard/ module.
It would contain the following pages:

1/ Main.Dashboard.xml (currently in XE's app)
2/ The pages making up the user dashboard
(XWiki.UserDashboardPreferencesClass, XWiki.XWikiUserDashboardSheet)
(currently in Admin app)
3/ A new page which will have the logic to choose to display the user
dashboard or the main shared dashboard (currently this code is in
Main.WebHome in XE's app)
Also I'd like to suggest introducing a Dashboard space and have all the
above-mentioned pages in that space.
Dashboard.WebHome would contain 3/.

And Main.WebHome would simply do an include of Dashboard.WebHome.

Note that this would allow the following:
* Ability to cleanly document the Dashboard feature on
extensions.xwiki.org and have it visible on enterprise.xwiki.org for
example
* It goes in the direction of splitting our XE XAR in discrete
application
* It groups together (functionally) a domain (dashboard) which means
that if a user doesn't want the dashboard feature, we can simply not
install it or remove it easily.
WDYT?

Thanks
-Vincent

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