Hi, On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi Jonathan, > > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Jonathan Solichin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Jerome & Community, > > > > Here is the design page for the Responsive Skin [1]. > > OK. > > About the tentative time-line, please confront each step with a date. > > About the mock-ups, personally I would prefer we make it a complete > initial phase of the project, to take the time to create a skin > afresh, trying as much as possible to forget about what has been done > in colibri (the current default skin of XWiki) and instead think > outside the box. This would mean forgetting about how menus, links, > information etc. is displayed, and come up with an actual new skin. > Especially since I understand you have design skills ;) > I'm curious what other members of the community think about going this > way, any opinion more than welcomed. > I would love to see some fresh ideas of how the responsive skin would look like. Jonathan should provide some a timeline in order to see how expensive this phase would be. Please also take a look at other ideas/layouts for the mobile skin http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/MobileSkin > > See below for your additional questions. > > > > > * I'd like we start with a phase of "paper" design (I mean with gimp > >> or photoshop or whatever tool to produce images). > > > > > > This is available in the design page, or, alternatively phone [2], tablet > > [3], desktop [4] > > > > * I think we should limit the feature set of the skin ; not trying to > >> do everything right away (there are potentially a lot of features to > >> work on, from livetables to data editors, to applications, etc.) > > > > * For a start, focus should be given on content and navigation. With a > >> mobile-first approach, expanding up to large-screens desktop. > > > > * I think it's OK to have semantic break points (like "phone", > >> "tablet", etc.) as long as the skin is actually responsive and adapt > >> to whatever real estate is available. We should be able to "drag the > >> corner" of a browser window and have the skin display well at all > >> sizes. > > > > > > Agreed. > > > > Also, current questions (c&p) from other e-mail regarding gsoc: > > > > 1. Specific support for non-javascript capable browser? I feel like it is > > not necessarily since browser which can not support javascript will fall > > back by itself. More over, it would not be capable of carrying out > > media-queries required for responsive design and some XWIKI features > (such > > as live tables?) anyway. > > XWiki usually has support for its features when the javascript is disabled. Thanks, Caty > At least content should display, links be accessible etc. > > > 2. Is the community ok with trying to use "true (html)" drop downs / > forms > > in order to fully utilize functions built in to phone/tablets [5]? > > When it makes sense, yes. Note that an approach could be to inject > drop downs in JS for certain media queries. > > > 3. Pressable Links: should they be bigger on mobile to help facilitate > > touching on words, or would it be better to use a "background" to create > a > > "touch area"? Both are in the phone mock up [6]. Former demonstrated in > > quicklinks, latter in the "Spaces" section. > > Makes sense. > > Jerome. > > > > > > > [1] http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ResponsiveSkin > > [2] http://jssolichin.com/public/mobile.jpg > > [3] http://jssolichin.com/public/tablet.jpg > > [4] http://jssolichin.com/public/desktop.jpg > > [5] http://css-tricks.com/convert-menu-to-dropdown/ > > [6] http://jssolichin.com/public/mobile.jpg > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > -- > Jérôme Velociter > Winesquare > http://www.winesquare.net/ > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
