On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Sorin Burjan wrote:
>
>> The list of what has been tested:
>>
>> * For intermediary releases (Milestones, RC1) will be the newly added
>> features and will be available in "Test Report" section of the RN. The
>> "Tested Browsers" and "Tested Databases" will also be specified for
>> everything that was manually tested.
>>
>> * For final releases, given we plan to test everything, from the RN we
>> will add a link to a different page which contains the list of
>> Test/Pass results and the tested environments.
>
> You're creating the Test application so all you need is to give a link to the 
> Livetable page passing in parameter the version.

Yes, we will get there. This vote was for until we have that :) And
yes, the Test App development is working pretty well.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sorin B.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Sorin Burjan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Vincent,
>>>>
>>>> The MTR Template has been corrected so it won't be misleading since
>>>> 4.1.1. You can check it at
>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/TestReports/ManualTestReportTemplate
>>>> As you can see we're not misleading anymore, since they are all marked
>>>> as "Not Tested" by default.
>>>>
>>>> The MTR is executed right after we release RC1. For Milestones, I only
>>>> test the newly added features from the Release Notes.
>>>>
>>>> The point of this vote is to not instantiate a MTR for Milestones and
>>>> RC1 (unlike we did until now), because if we instantiate one for each,
>>>> it would have all the items as "Not Tested", which is useless IMO.
>>>> I was proposing to drop creating a blank MTR for Milestones and RC1,
>>>> but have one for each Final version. (which will be filled with
>>>> Pass/Fail between RC1 and Final).
>>>>
>>>> Now about what we put in the intermediary releases notes, if there is
>>>> no MTR testing, we can put which features have been tested manually
>>>> from the Release Notes (as Silvia suggested), or put the browser and
>>>> the database on which we run our UI-tests (as Marius suggested)
>>>>
>>>> WDYT ?
>>>
>>> My proposal is to remove the notion of MTR at all. We don't need it and 
>>> nobody cares about it. The only thing important is the list of what has 
>>> been tested, in which version and in which environment.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sorin B.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Sorin,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Sorin Burjan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello devs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to cast a vote regarding the following proposal:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remove the section about manual testing and the link to the MTR's from
>>>>>> M1, M2 and RC1 Release Notes, since we test against MTR only after we
>>>>>> release RC1.
>>>>>> This means that we will have a MTR only for final releases, which will
>>>>>> be linked from the RN page of the final version.
>>>>>> After releasing each M1, M2 and RC1, only the newly added features are 
>>>>>> tested.
>>>>>> The rationale behind this is that ATM we point a link to a MTR (for
>>>>>> every minor release) but the MTR will be empty ("Not Tested"), so this
>>>>>> renders it useless for minor releases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waiting for your votes/opinions
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO we should keep the current rule which is currently:
>>>>> * Add the list of the browsers and DBs that have been tested for the RN 
>>>>> corresponding to the version. For ex, if you test on FF X for version 
>>>>> 4.2M1 then you should put that in the RN for 4.2M1. Of course if nothing 
>>>>> has been tested you don't put something empty, you just keep the section 
>>>>> but add a one line saying that no manual tests have been performed for 
>>>>> this version.
>>>>>
>>>>> What needs to be improved is the accuracy of the MTR which currently is 
>>>>> misleading since all items are marked as tested whereas only a few are 
>>>>> really tested at a given point in time.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what the user need to see is the exact list of what has been tested, 
>>>>> and on which browser and which DB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>
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