On Nov 21, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Vincent, > > if I may, this looks like a common fallacy: developers wanting to build > tools for developers. Of course building a "XWiki for Software Development" > flavor will sound sexy to you, since you're a developer yourself as well as > a XWiki committer. You would be your own target audience. In other words, > you want to build something for yourself. I think that not being a developer you completely miss the point :) > However, please note that the market for such tools is already very, very > crowded. Market? Who's talking about marketing/research studies, etc here? :) > There's Trac / Bloodhound, there's the whole Atlassian suite, > there is what Github is building as well as countless other solutions. > > One of XWiki's great strengths and differentiators is in its ability to let > people manage structured and unstructured content easily. I think we should > keep focusing our work on this instead of trying to enter a crowded space > with little perceivable benefits Who's "we"? > . In your mind, is this the very best thing > we could possibly work on in order to ensure XWiki's long-term success and > sustainability? Definitely. Thanks -Vincent > My 2 cents, > > Guillaume > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Nov 21, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Vincent, >>> >>> >>> 2012/11/18 Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Hi devs, >>>> >>> >>> >>>> *** Latest emails (taken from mailman or other mailing list software, >>>> possibly by subscribing the project to a mailing list so that it gets >> the >>>> emails) >>>> >>> >>> >>>> ** A forum application, for example the Mail Archive Application done by >>>> Jeremie which would need to be improved to add ability to post from it >>>> >>> >>> Couldn't / shouldn't it be the same thing ? >>> I know the Mail Archive App is not finished at all, but one feature is >>> possibility to generate code to include in pages in order to display >>> filtered lists of emails or topics loaded by the app (filtering by >>> mailing-list, with ordering, max nb, etc…). >> >> Yes, it's the same thing I agree. >> >>> If I may add some comment, it's a very nice idea. To me the biggest trap >> is >>> integration with external sources. If it's not easily pluggable / >>> configurable and choice is too restricted, it will attract only a little >>> subset of developers. In my office for example, I would use it if I could >>> link to Rhodecode or Mercurial (instead of github) and Redmine (instead >> of >>> jira). >> >> Yep, we would need contributions for other issue trackers but once we >> start having something it may attract devs to develop other integrations. >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

