On Jan 5, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Le 05/01/13 21:17, Vincent Massol a écrit :
>> On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Vincent,
>>> 
>>> That's  a good idea and that's something I had in mind for some time too :)
>>> 
>>> What part(s) exactly of our REST module do you imagine moving to commons ?
>> Just the part that bridges Restlet and our component model.
> 
> In my opinion that's already too much.
> 
> * That bridge uses a trick that forces to have the FQN of the class as a 
> hint, it's not a proper integration with the CM.
> * That would imply we want to continue with Restlet in the future. Personally 
> I'm not sure I'd vouch for that, for several reasons. In particular the fact 
> that JAX-RS is sort of a second class citizen in Restlet land ; so since we 
> are building on JAX-RS it means both we can't benefit from many Restlet 
> features that would be interesting, and we don't benefit either from the 
> features of an (other) framework that focuses solely on JAX-RS. See for 
> instances injection providers in Jersey 
> http://codahale.com/what-makes-jersey-interesting-injection-providers/

2 points here:

1) I've seen mentions of dynamic addition of REST resources in Restlet. I need 
to talk to Jerome about that

2) the goal here was not to redo the REST system and it doesn't have to be. 
It's not because something is in commons or rendering that we can't change it 
after. It's fine to want to improve our REST support but it doesn't have to be 
a prerequisite to introduce a Rendering REST APIs (which we already partly have 
AFAIK), especially since from a user POV all that counts are the URLs. The rest 
(ahaha ;)) can change without affecting the user.

I still haven't made my mind but I was thinking of maybe proposing this for 
Devoxx FR, which would mean a short timeframe.

I think the "Future of XWiki REST architecture" is interesting and should be a 
new email thread.

Thanks
-Vincent

> Jerome
> 
>> 
>>> I ask because to be honest I'm not a big fan of how our REST API is built 
>>> and what API it exposes ; and moving it to commons would be to "promote" it 
>>> in a way.
>> What don't you like specifically? Maybe worth a separate thread?
>> 
>>> So, in my opinion, and since the subject in itself drags interest (at least 
>>> from me), I think it would be a good occasion to try and find out what 
>>> direction we want to to go regarding REST.
>>> If there is interest, I can take some time and gather my thoughts/feedback 
>>> as why I think the current REST API/implementation is limited.
>> Sure. My idea was just to move the generic part that makes us able to add 
>> REST resources as components into commons and then make some proposal for 
>> REST URLs for the Rendering module (after checking what we already have,).
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> 
>>> Jerome
>>> 
>>> Le 05/01/13 16:27, Vincent Massol a écrit :
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> 
>>>> Just got an idea about a talk I could give at a conference: Building a 
>>>> wiki, with XWiki Rendering and AngularJS.
>>>> 
>>>> The ideas are:
>>>> * Demonstrate XWiki Rendering through a use case which is to build  a 
>>>> simple wiki
>>>> * Use a recent/modern framework like AngularJS to draw people to the talk 
>>>> ;)
>>>> * Talk about XWiki
>>>> * Get people to use xwiki rendering and grow the developer base for xwiki 
>>>> rendering
>>>> 
>>>> I think we're close to be able to implement this but it's missing one 
>>>> thing: ability to call XWiki Rendering from REST.
>>>> 
>>>> Thus I think it would be a good idea to move our REST framework into XWiki 
>>>> Commons and then in XWiki Rendering add a REST module to expose rendering 
>>>> operations through REST.
>>>> 
>>>> WDYT?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
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