On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Vincent, >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi devs, >>>> >>>> Caty, Thomas, Marius and myself have had a brainstorming session today >>>> about Flavors. Here's the proposal that came out of it: >>>> >>>> * Remove notion of XE/XEM distributions. The distribution is just "XWiki" >>>> * XWiki becomes an empty shell (as it is already when you download the >>>> WAR), even when you download the standalone distribution >>>> * Generate distributions in xwiki-platform, maybe in xwiki-distributions >>>> with installers inside and some functional tests (but most func tests will >>>> be with flavors) >>>> * Remove xwiki-enterprise and xwiki-manager and introduce xwiki-flavors/ >>>> in xwiki-platform >>>> * Introduce notion of Categories for extensions (similar to the category >>>> concepts in wiki macros) >>>> * Flavors will be extensions categorized as "flavors" (using the >>>> Categories system) >>>> * In the future we'll also need a new Maven <paclaging> type to represent >>>> a grouping of extensions with no specific content >>>> * Display Flavors in DW first steps and ask user to choose which one they >>>> want to specialize their wiki >>>> * First 2 flavors we need: Workspaces and Knowledge Base (closest to the >>>> current XE but without Blog). We need to define precisely the first version >>>> of these 2 flavors >>>> >>> >>> All this sounds good to me and a real improvement compare to the current >>> situation. >>> Regarding initial flavors, I also think we should also have a somewhat >>> "minimal" "untainted" flavor, with mainly EM and the administration >>> application. This could be your default choice if you do not want to take >>> any decision. Not installing anything make the wiki almost unusable except >>> for experts, so I really think we need this. The Knowledge Base flavor is >>> no more an acceptable default IMO. >> >> Indeed, we could have two more options in the list of flavors: >> * "No flavor" (selected by default maybe) which would install only the >> EM UI to let the user install later what extensions he wants and > > I wouldn't put that as the default; it's the flavor that only 0.000001% of > xwiki users would pick… ;) > > Or do you mean to use that if the user "cancels" the DW?
Cancel DW is different. I think we need to have a separate "No flavor" option, even if not selected by default. > >> * "Custom flavor", allowing the user to select a list of extension to >> install. > > IMO custom Flavor is the same as "don't install any flavor" since it means > going to the EM UI to manually install extensions. Yes, but I thought maybe the user will want to install some extension from the start. It's not that important. Thanks, Marius > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> Thanks, >> Marius >> >>> >>> >>>> We also agreed that the main work to be done before we can really have >>>> flavors is to implement Categories for extensions. >>>> >>> >>> Have you already some plan for implementing that ? How could this integrate >>> well with normal maven package ? >>> >>> >>>> We'll need to decide when we start working on this in our roadmap but >>>> probably not before 5.2 anyway since 1) it'll be Marius and Thomas who >>>> would work on this and 2) Thomas has to work on performance import/export >>>> and Marius needs to work on AWM, probably both in 5.1 (roadmap not defined >>>> yet). >>>> >>>> WDYT? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
